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1st December 08, 03:13 AM
#31
Originally Posted by auld argonian
. Alpha males, obviously...gotta love 'em. Wonder if it would have happened if there was only one of them...?
More like Omega males, I think. Ponies among the horses.
I very much doubt that one pony would have had the nerve to say anything.
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1st December 08, 07:01 AM
#32
Originally Posted by Tetley
Oh, I see. Thank you for enlightening me.
Was it not the native Americans that championed that style of fighting? I seem to recall something about that from my youth. I never was much good at history.
Mark
Originally Posted by sathor
I'm referring to the revolution, where we had to fight in such a way to actually do anything against the better trained Redcoats.
Sathor,
That is very much a myth regarding American tactics in the Revolution; there were a few examples of colonial forces using "irregular" tactics, but most historians will tell you that Washington knew his only chance was to field an army that could beat the British Army on their own game. That was one of the reasons why the Prussian officer Von Steuben was brought over, to write a drill-manual for the colonial forces and to instill discipline into the American line to do such a task.
You might wish to take a look at Don Higginbotham's George Washington and the American Military Tradition for a very interesting discussion of Washington's views on this subject. In addition, Earl Hess has a new book out on the myth of the Civil War era rifle musket which also delves into this myth as a preface.
I can recommend other titles if needed. I deal with this myth on a regular basis in my history classes.
Regards,
Todd
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1st December 08, 07:31 AM
#33
Originally Posted by Freedomlover
More like Omega males, I think. Ponies among the horses.
I very much doubt that one pony would have had the nerve to say anything.
Oh, that was sort of my point...I just love the guys who think that they're "alpha males"...I have a lot of friends who fancy themselves "tough guys" but all they really are is big, quick to mouth off and, as a result of that, the recipients of a whole lot of dental work over the years. Knowing when to talk and when to let a wisecrack roll off your back is a real talent.
Best
AA
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1st December 08, 09:04 AM
#34
Fair enough, I just remember what I learned from the books we had when I was a kid. Being that the math and Science books are quite different now, I can believe history has 'changed' as well.
Originally Posted by cajunscot
Sathor,
That is very much a myth regarding American tactics in the Revolution; there were a few examples of colonial forces using "irregular" tactics, but most historians will tell you that Washington knew his only chance was to field an army that could beat the British Army on their own game. That was one of the reasons why the Prussian officer Von Steuben was brought over, to write a drill-manual for the colonial forces and to instill discipline into the American line to do such a task.
You might wish to take a look at Don Higginbotham's George Washington and the American Military Tradition for a very interesting discussion of Washington's views on this subject. In addition, Earl Hess has a new book out on the myth of the Civil War era rifle musket which also delves into this myth as a preface.
I can recommend other titles if needed. I deal with this myth on a regular basis in my history classes.
Regards,
Todd
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1st December 08, 09:41 AM
#35
If it's not worth saying to your face, it's not worth listening to.
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1st December 08, 09:57 AM
#36
Negative comments.............
I understand your frustration with the situation.
I have had women lift up my kilt from behind to see what was underneath! Imagine if the tables were turned?
In the end though you had your lovely wife on your arm who was there for you. So the way I see it, you a blessed man.
"V"
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1st December 08, 11:13 AM
#37
Last fall I was attending an outdoor event while kilted. While there I met a friend that is gay and as we were talking a group of young men from the local university walked past and from the group came the "Queer" comment with everyone in the group breaking out in laughter. Normally, I let such comments fly by, but I was a grouch that day and couldn't leave it alone. I remarked "Who are you calling queer?" even though I knew what the answer was going to be. The biggest guy in the group turned around, pointed at me and said "you!". My friend then shot back with a retort of his own. He said "Well, hon-it takes queer to know queer. So when did you finally come out?" The big guy turned 5 shades of red and then found himself to be the target of "gay" comments from the other members of his group. I gave my friend a "high 5" and he said "Ain't karma great? What goes around comes around."
A couple of hours later as I was leaving, one of the guys from the group approached me and commented on how great the kilt looked and asked the usual questions as to the tartans he could wear and where he could get a kilt of his own. I gave him the link to X-marks. I had to give this young man points as he did offer me an apology for his behavior and he marked it up to the pack mentality.
Earl D-
Clans Cameron and MacLeod
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I thought I had a handle on life-then one day the handle broke off!
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1st December 08, 11:50 AM
#38
Originally Posted by Earl D-
Last fall I was attending an outdoor event while kilted. While there I met a friend that is gay and as we were talking a group of young men from the local university walked past and from the group came the "Queer" comment with everyone in the group breaking out in laughter. Normally, I let such comments fly by, but I was a grouch that day and couldn't leave it alone. I remarked "Who are you calling queer?" even though I knew what the answer was going to be. The biggest guy in the group turned around, pointed at me and said "you!". My friend then shot back with a retort of his own. He said "Well, hon-it takes queer to know queer. So when did you finally come out?" The big guy turned 5 shades of red and then found himself to be the target of "gay" comments from the other members of his group. I gave my friend a "high 5" and he said "Ain't karma great? What goes around comes around."
A couple of hours later as I was leaving, one of the guys from the group approached me and commented on how great the kilt looked and asked the usual questions as to the tartans he could wear and where he could get a kilt of his own. I gave him the link to X-marks. I had to give this young man points as he did offer me an apology for his behavior and he marked it up to the pack mentality.
That's a good story....good for that young man, for coming around and making things right.
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1st December 08, 11:52 AM
#39
Originally Posted by sathor
Of course, that isn't much different than how we send the British packing.
Pardon?
Graham.
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1st December 08, 11:58 AM
#40
The Kids don't bother me as much as the Adults.
I was approved by an obviously intoxicated mid 30's "gentleman" who's addiction to hair care products gave him the courage to ask me if I lost a bet and had to wear a skirt.
With gently urging I left the ignorant wretch to his friends.
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