Scott kilt

[kiltmakerneedshelp]

How would you go about pleating a dress blue scott tartan?

[Mipi]

First - Welcome!

This is very general question and sholud be replaced with many more precise questions.
For begining, see DIY section and try to find tips to start with. Otherwise most propper way would be to buy " The art of kiltmaking" from Celtic Dragon Press. You can find also some free e-books on making kilt, too.

Good luck!

[Scully]

Greetings from Greensboro

and what Mipi said, the DIY forum is the best place for "those" questions.

[arrg-isle]

Welcome & Greetings!
If Scott's your clan, you'll find a handful of us with relations to that proud line right here on X Marks the Scot!

[McMurdo]

How would you go about pleating a dress blue scott tartan?

What I always do is discuss it with my kiltmaker, and 9 times out of 10 I go with what they have decided, now if this is a kilt you are making yourself, I would think doing some test pinnings to see what you like best would be the way to go.

from Toronto, Ontario, Canada

[EagleJCS]

A 'dress blue' Scott?!? Didn't know there was such a creature!

The Scott Red Modern is generally considered the 'dress' tartan (or formal or fancy tartan) by the Clan Scott Society. There is a Scott Green (considered the 'everyday' tartan) and a Scott Brown (considered the 'hunting' tartan). (There are also the "Ancient" and "Weathered" variants of those colors.) The 'Dress' tartans (with a mainly white background instead of red, green, or brown) listed on the tartan finder websites are generally ladies' tartans, intended for arisaids, etc.

Most of the kilts I have seen in any of the three main tartans (and their variants) are pleated to the sett. If one wanted to pleat to the stripe, I suppose the Red could be pleated to one of the white stripes. The Green might be pleated to one of the yellow, white, or red stripes. The Brown maybe to one of the red or white stripes.

The difficulty in choosing a stripe is that all of the Scott tartans have double-stripes instead of single stripes making up the sett, so choosing 'a' dominant stripe to pleat to really makes the kilt unattractive, in my opinion. It would probably also use a lot more material, but one of the other kiltmakers may be able to answer that.

[kiltmakerneedshelp]

To be more specific I am making a Royal Blue Dress Scott. I am pleating to the sett. The middle of the block of color has 5 stripes which makes it nearly impossible to pleat with a waist pleat measurement of 9/16 and hip measurement of pleats at 13/16. The distance between the stripes makes it so you will have 2 stripes at the waist but 3 at the hips-obviously I don't want a stripe wandering in. Any hints?

[Dixiecat]

A 'dress blue' Scott?!? Didn't know there was such a creature!

The 'Dress' tartans (with a mainly white background instead of red, green, or brown) listed on the tartan finder websites are generally ladies' tartans, intended for arisaids

You should see the colours that the Scott tartan can be found in now. The Scott tartan is very sharp looking and looks fantastic when made into a dancers kilt.

Dress tartans are not just for women either. While the male dancers don't usually go for the new turquoise, raspberry, lavender or cerise colours, you'll find practically every male dancer in a dress tartan. Why? Because they show up better on stage.

While I am not impressed with the wild colours tartans can be found in now, I applaud the efforts that weavers are going to, to keep the interest in Highland dancing.

kiltmaker: The only thing that I can suggest is to take a look at the section of the book 'The Art of Kiltmaking' that addresses identifying elements within the sett and then how to pleat using the elements. My experience to kiltmaking has been with setts that are less complicated that the Scott.

[arrg-isle]

You should see the colours that the Scott tartan can be found in now.

I'm not claiming to be an expert (especially on this site!), but I've always understood that tartans can only be "found" in the colors & patterns specifically approved for them by the authorities working directly for the Lord Lyon.
According to The House of Tartan, an online educator I've always trusted, and which is promoted on the Electric Scotland site, these are currently the only Scott tartans available:

1245 - Scott
825 - Scott
1825 - Scott
1564 - Scott (MacRae)
1826 - Scott (Sir Walter Scott)
1241 - Scott B/W (Sir Walter..)
1287 - Scott Black and Grey
1007 - Scott Dress
1006 - Scott Dress
50 - Scott Green
1546 - Scott Hunting
763 - Scott Hunting Special
1005 - Scott Red
4 - Scott Red
1240 - Scott Sir Walter Scott
1037 - Scott Sir Walter Scott

None of those are described as Scott Blue, or Scott Dress Blue, and none show anything like a majority of blue color.
If this Scott Dress Blue is something new, or very rare, can anybody quote an ID # for it? I'd really like to get a look at it somewhere!

[macwilkin]

but I've always understood that tartans can only be "found" in the colors & patterns specifically approved for them by the authorities working directly for the Lord Lyon.

The Lyon Court really has nothing to do with approving tartan designs or colours. As Matt Newsome is want to say, tartans are not heraldic. Yes, some tartans may be recorded with the Lyon Court as related to a particular clan, but in terms of "approving colours and patterns" -- no.

Regards,

Todd