Saw Pipe Major insignia on Prince Charlie Jacket

**Riverkilt** · 29th December 08, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by hospitaller

I just object, as usual, to the harsh terms people use so easily against others' dress preferences.

I'm with Hospitaller on this...and most surprised by what seems to be a new attitude towards "The Rules" that harsh terms are welcome in responding to requests for opinions.

At least this request wasn't a personal thing.

Been disturbing me for a few weeks now...particularly when new members are "ambushed" with harsh responses to basic requests...

But, yes, I know, way off the topic. Hospitaller's response just resonated with me.

Ron

**Bugbear** · 29th December 08, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown

... Just think of a college marching band in white tie and tails, with their school logo plastered all over it-- the effect would be the same.

Originally Posted by cajunscot

Here's the litmus test: would you wear one on a "Saxon" dinner jacket/tail coat? ...

Don't look at me, I wouldn't dream of doing that. However,I do note that the PC is being compared partly to a tail coat in these two posts. That makes much more sense to me than calling it an Highland tuxedo.

It can be very confusing.

**McMurdo** · 29th December 08, 11:22 AM

If it was indeed Gordon Walker, which is what I suspect, it looks more like a Mess Jacket than a Prince Charlie. As such I think it is a better look, and more appropriate, than on a Prince Charlie. Thanks Sandford for putting up the link, wonderful piping. As Todd is fond of saying we can disagree without being disagreeable.

**macwilkin** · 29th December 08, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Riverkilt

I'm with Hospitaller on this...and most surprised by what seems to be a new attitude towards "The Rules" that harsh terms are welcome in responding to requests for opinions.

At least this request wasn't a personal thing.

Been disturbing me for a few weeks now...particularly when new members are "ambushed" with harsh responses to basic requests...

But, yes, I know, way off the topic. Hospitaller's response just resonated with me.

Ron

Unfortunately, Ron, it tends to go both ways. I would agree that the delivery could be improved at times, but whenever a traditionalist offers their opinion following the customs and conventions of Higland dress, they are met with a number of "there are no rules" posts and the like.

Regards,

Todd

**Tattoo Bradley** · 29th December 08, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by McMurdo

If it was indeed Gordon Walker, which is what I suspect, it looks more like a Mess Jacket than a Prince Charlie. As such I think it is a better look, and more appropriate, than on a Prince Charlie. Thanks Sandford for putting up the link, wonderful piping. As Todd is fond of saying we can disagree without being disagreeable.

I agree. It's definitely a mess jacket rather than a PC.

**macwilkin** · 29th December 08, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by McMurdo

If it was indeed Gordon Walker, which is what I suspect, it looks more like a Mess Jacket than a Prince Charlie. As such I think it is a better look, and more appropriate, than on a Prince Charlie. Thanks Sandford for putting up the link, wonderful piping. As Todd is fond of saying we can disagree without being disagreeable.

I can't get a good look at the jacket, but it appears he is wearing collar dogs on the lapels, which makes me agree with Glen that this is a mess jacket and not a civilian Prince Charlie.

But, if it is mufti, then I'll be the first one to apologise for saying it is never done.

Todd

**Riverkilt** · 29th December 08, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

whenever a traditionalist offers their opinion following the customs and conventions of Higland dress, they are met with a number of "there are no rules" posts and the like.

Understand that for sure.

Was speaking more to the "tone," use of adjectives, and what might seem personal digs, in the responses.

But I'm off topic and have no specifics at hand.

Ron

**macwilkin** · 29th December 08, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Riverkilt

Understand that for sure.

Was speaking more to the "tone," use of adjectives, and what might seem personal digs, in the responses.

But I'm off topic and have no specifics at hand.

Ron

Ron,

Agreed; see in my last post the comment about "delivery".

Todd

**Jack Daw** · 29th December 08, 11:48 AM

Rules or standards - whatever you want to call them apply more to those over the age of 30. Those 30 and younger will always make up new things that are wild and power to them, those lucky b___s! As for me, at 50, I'd look like a jerk if I wore anything outside of the norm or standard.

**macwilkin** · 29th December 08, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Jack Daw

Rules or standards - whatever you want to call them apply more to those over the age of 30. Those 30 and younger will always make up new things that are wild and power to them, those lucky b___s! As for me, at 50, I'd look like a jerk if I wore anything outside of the norm or standard.

Funny, but I wasn't that way when I was under 30.

T.