Argyll outfit 'infamous'?

**Kilted Craanen** · 3rd January 09, 04:26 PM

Hello People,

I just wanted to share this with you and hear your opinion, for I was rather upset myself.

This evening I went to a classical concert with my dad. He got tickets from the bank, for he is a 'preferred banker'. Dresscode, Semi-formal. I asked him whether or not I could wear my argyll outfit.

He told me he would find it ashaming to be together with someone in an argyll outfit who was not scottish and that it was not a kilt on a non-scotsman, but a skirt.

Haven't spoken to him since, even after he apologized.

What do you think about it? I find it unspeakably rude.

Cheers,

Daniel

**BEEDEE** · 3rd January 09, 04:29 PM

I would graciously accept his apology, then show him this, from Wikipedia. (I added the emphasis)

The kilt is a knee-length garment with pleats at the rear, originating in the traditional dress of men and boys in the Scottish Highlands of the 16th century. Since the 19th century it has been associated with the wider culture of Scotland in general, or with Celtic (and more specifically Gaelic) heritage elsewhere.

Brian

**Buckskin** · 3rd January 09, 04:37 PM

OK, he was being a jerk. But, he still is your father. He apologized. Was it sincere or simply trying to defuse the situation. If this kind of attack is a regular thing, Then I would suggest trying to have a sit down, CALM, conversation to see what the real problem is. If it was a one time thing, Let it go and make amends. The apology say he got the point, that he went to far.

**pdcorlis** · 3rd January 09, 04:52 PM

Fathers and sons can have some really complex relationships at times - huh? I say if his apology was sincere - then join him in the adult world, accept it, and move on. If this is part of a continuing pattern then there may be a much larger issue to sort out.

Best of luck.

**Kilted Craanen** · 3rd January 09, 04:57 PM

We do often have arguments, and I'm 100% sure that this apology was just so I would look happy towards his bank colleagues.. Of course I'm not thát immature that I wouldn't be talking to him for ages, being rude to everyone around me etc - but I did find this insult going a 'wee bit' too far.

**thescot** · 3rd January 09, 05:09 PM

Daniel, I wish I could fix all the stupid things I've done--and said--especially where my children were concerned. He's not perfect; he's a guy like all of us who has his own opinions, feelings, etc. And he probably made a really big goof here.

You have no idea how my dad hurt and pained me over my guitar for about 40 years. I just wish he was still here to do it.

And the fact that he apologized makes me think that he's probably a very good man. some men can't do that with their children.

I don't want to be held accountable for every bad or stupid thing I've done for the rest of my life, especially by my children who are the only important things I've ever done. (They're 31 and 28 now, but I still love them and need them.) Nor, I suspect, do you.

Forgive him, get on with it, and learn how to live together. He's your dad. He'd walk over hot coals and gladly give his life for you, so don't let this come between you. Go ahead, get pissed off, and then make up.

This will all work itself out.

**Kilted Craanen** · 3rd January 09, 05:13 PM

Thank you for all comments so far - My apologies for throwing this up on the message board, but I just had to get it out.

But still - as a Dutchmen (with probably Scottish ancestry (still finding the exact clan/region)) I can wear a kilt without problems yeah? :S

**RockyR** · 3rd January 09, 05:15 PM

I agree with the others...

1. He's your father, so you have to take it with a bit of a grain of salt
2. He DID apologize, so that must count (b/c he realized he was WRONG).
3. If it happens again, you can always have a discussion about what HE does that embarrasses you (I suggest making a list before hand) and bring it all up at once. Then, tear the list in half in front of him and explain, "none of this list matters b/c you're MY FATHER and I love you and accept you for who you are. All I would ask is the same from you in return."

**RockyR** · 3rd January 09, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Kilted Craanen

Thank you for all comments so far - My apologies for throwing this up on the message board, but I just had to get it out.

But still - as a Dutchmen (with probably Scottish ancestry (still finding the exact clan/region)) I can wear a kilt without problems yeah? :S

BTW... I'm pretty sure there's a Dutch tartan... use the search function to look for it...