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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    I notice sometimes that in search of a less expensive alternative we sometimes end up spending as much, if not more, money over time than we would have if we had just saved up and bought the real thing to begin with.
    True, but now he knows where to get perfectly good hose, and if he wants more than 1, he will still pay much less than a single pair of the expensive ones.

    trade offs, remember, not everyone is loaded with hundreds of dollars to spend in a single pair of socks or a sporran.

    So, we learn from other's experiences.

    If I ever win the lottery, I will buy your stuff Matt, until you carry affordable stuff for those of us in a tight budget, no dice i'm affraid (no pun intended)
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    Quote Originally Posted by hospitaller View Post
    True, but now he knows where to get perfectly good hose, and if he wants more than 1, he will still pay much less than a single pair of the expensive ones.

    trade offs, remember, not everyone is loaded with hundreds of dollars to spend in a single pair of socks or a sporran.

    So, we learn from other's experiences.

    If I ever win the lottery, I will buy your stuff Matt, until you carry affordable stuff for those of us in a tight budget, no dice i'm affraid (no pun intended)
    I've been to Matt Newsome's shop , live and in person because I am from his town and I found that his stuff has been reasonably priced. Because I am extremely into textiles, I have also had the greatest pleasure of examining the products at the Scottish Tartan Museum's shop and found it some of the highest quality around and in fact not only is worth what it is but he could probably get away with charging just a wee bit more from it because the products that are sold are products of the HIGHEST quality and will last years and years, where as something cheaper will get worn and faded for a few months.

    I respectfully request that until you learn about quality vs. money that you don't be quite so critical of individuals such as Matt Newsome who has done nothing but share his extreme wisdom of Scottish attire to this board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duchessofnc View Post
    I respectfully request that until you learn about quality vs. money that you don't be quite so critical of individuals such as Matt Newsome who has done nothing but share his extreme wisdom of Scottish attire to this board.
    I didn't read Hospitaller's post as being critical of Matt. Simply that for the quality product's he supplies, you typically have to pay a premium. I understand his position, though. When I read a post discussing a hundred dollars or more for kilt hose, I simply by-pass it. I can't afford that. I also can't justify, in my value system, paying that much for what amounts to a pair of sock - no matter the quality. Don't have anything against those that can, just not my cuppa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duchessofnc View Post
    I respectfully request that until you learn about quality vs. money that you don't be quite so critical of individuals such as Matt Newsome who has done nothing but share his extreme wisdom of Scottish attire to this board.
    And the irony is, I did not criticize Matt, in fact I clearly mentioned that when and If I can ever afford to buy his stuff I will.

    Now, you freely criticize and pre-judge me with your remark.

    Had you read my post, you would have noticed the point is about price and affordability, not about quality.

    Alternative 'kilt products' are affordable. 'Brand name' kilt products are of quality.

    I really fail to see where I have criticized Matt, so if you could clarify it for me I'd appreciate it. And of course your remark. Very snide and sophomoric.

    Matt, those used hose I bought from you last year are still running great by the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hospitaller View Post
    If I ever win the lottery, I will buy your stuff Matt, until you carry affordable stuff for those of us in a tight budget, no dice i'm affraid (no pun intended)
    I have noticed of late a certain attitude among some of "us poor guys" vs. "you rich guys," and I try not to let it bother me. If you look at my wardrobe, you'd probably assume me to be among "you rich guys," however my W2s certainly affirm that I am among "us poor guys" fairly squarely.

    I strive to have quality items in our museum gift shop, both because I think it reflects well on our museum, and also because I am proud of the artisans, craftspeople, and busines folks that contribute their time and talents to Scottish heritage.

    Sometimes this means our items are more expensive than others, yes. But it doesn't mean we cater only to the rich, and I rather resent the implication that someone "on a budget" could not find what he needs in our shop. We do try to carry products at a range of price points; but even with our less expensive offerings we try not to sacrifice quality.

    So you will find, for example, we carry hose as inexpensive as $19.95. You can also spend $250 for a pair of custom-knit Argyles. We have a variety of hose at every price point in between, from $27.95 to $48 to $110 and so on. A sock for every budget!

    Sporrans are another example. We have quality sporrans from as low as $59.95 to upwards of $400, and like with with hose, at pretty much every price point in between.

    We have quality kilts made from tartan from the top Scottish mills from the mid-$300s up to over $700. And again, at every price point in between.

    I like to showcase some of our nicer products here on the forum, and of course many of these tend to be in the higher price range. So maybe I have inadvertantly contributed to the impression that we cater only to the rich. If so, I apologize. No, we don't have a lot of the uber-cheap stuff. We have no desire to compete with sportkilt and the many and varieed ebay vendors. That's not what we are about. But a look through our gift shop pages should indicate that we strive to offer good quality Highland wear at a variety of price points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    I have noticed of late a certain attitude among some of "us poor guys" vs. "you rich guys," and I try not to let it bother me. If you look at my wardrobe, you'd probably assume me to be among "you rich guys," however my W2s certainly affirm that I am among "us poor guys" fairly squarely.

    I strive to have quality items in our museum gift shop, both because I think it reflects well on our museum, and also because I am proud of the artisans,
    Matt,
    I agree with you and I am in the poboy catagory also. I would prefer to save my money and buy one quality product rather than have to buy several lower priced and usually lower quality item. It just makes better since to me. My Kilts and other Highland wear are an investment and they should and will last a lifetime.
    Now that being said, I do shop around and hit ebay often.You can find real deals if you look, I found my pc and waist coat on ebay for $68 it sells on J. Higgins for $275.
    So each to thier own but usually paying a little more for quality up front saves money in the long run.
    Thats my $0.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdot84 View Post
    Matt,
    I agree with you and I am in the poboy catagory also. I would prefer to save my money and buy one quality product rather than have to buy several lower priced and usually lower quality item. It just makes better since to me. My Kilts and other Highland wear are an investment and they should and will last a lifetime.
    I agree with you there, but see, a lot of us also want to buy one item, not dozens.

    I just want to have a pair of diced hose and that's it. I can not afford $150-$200 for a pair of diced hose. I can afford $60. So I buy the ONE I can afford.

    I don't want dozens of pairs of hose, some members do and showcase them regularly. It is nice to see the variety and good for them.

    I just don't think it fair to call our available price range of selections 'unserviceable', or 'wear them only once every 5 years' or 'wear them only when there is not enough light' and so on.

    If someone can afford and does not want to wear 'cheap' items, great, just please enough with the editorials and criticisms.

    Different people can afford different prices, and there is no need to ridicule or criticize those items that are 'cheaper'.

    Some people can only afford those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hospitaller View Post
    I agree with you there, but see, a lot of us also want to buy one item, not dozens.

    I just want to have a pair of diced hose and that's it. I can not afford $150-$200 for a pair of diced hose. I can afford $60. So I buy the ONE I can afford.

    I don't want dozens of pairs of hose, some members do and showcase them regularly. It is nice to see the variety and good for them.

    I just don't think it fair to call our available price range of selections 'unserviceable', or 'wear them only once every 5 years' or 'wear them only when there is not enough light' and so on.

    If someone can afford and does not want to wear 'cheap' items, great, just please enough with the editorials and criticisms.

    Different people can afford different prices, and there is no need to ridicule or criticize those items that are 'cheaper'.

    Some people can only afford those.
    I applogize if anything in my post was concidered criticisms or ridicule, I did not mean it to sound that way.
    I was just trying to point out that there are bargins out there, and or a person may be better suited to save up for an item than to lose thier money on somethig that will not last (this I have done myself).
    After all we are all here to educate and to be educated.
    I think a person should wear what they want, and that is what is advocated here in this forum.
    Once again I appologize If anything I'd posted before was misconstued.

    Thanks

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