Bear Tartan farbric

[RockyR]

If you need help coping with asymmetry, just holler! Don't make any cuts or rips until you're sure you know what you want to do.

BTW - how much did you buy, and what weight is it?

I noticed it ws described as 'Jura' which would mean 16 oz cloth from Marton Mills

One thing I noticed about the a-symmetry... look at the picture CLOSELY... the BOTTOM black line in the pic (horizontal) is on the OTHER side of the tartan. This MAY allow it to be cut and spliced, HOWEVER, the vertical kilt stripes will move from one side of the block to the other side at the splice. I'm ASSUMING that the grey / white pivot line just above the bottom of the picture is the MIDDLE of the bolt when I talk about the a-symmetry being splice-able... kind of.

Is this making sense?

[Rex_Tremende]

Rocky, what sharp eyes you have! I don't think I would have noticed that.

Regards,
Rex.

[meinfs]

I noticed it ws described as 'Jura' which would mean 16 oz cloth from Marton Mills

One thing I noticed about the a-symmetry... look at the picture CLOSELY... the BOTTOM black line in the pic (horizontal) is on the OTHER side of the tartan. This MAY allow it to be cut and spliced, HOWEVER, the vertical kilt stripes will move from one side of the block to the other side at the splice. I'm ASSUMING that the grey / white pivot line just above the bottom of the picture is the MIDDLE of the bolt when I talk about the a-symmetry being splice-able... kind of.

Is this making sense?

Indeed, I had noticed that 'inverted' black line too. I'm guessing, just guessing, that it may have to do with the fact the Chris at beartartan had supplied me, quite generously, with fabric that's several inches longer than their normal 27" single-width. They don't come in double-width. That point may be the middle of the bolt if it were doubled. And yes, the vertical stripes would be reversed if I try to splice. And I have 8 yards of it so no need to join. I'm planning to make a box-pleated kilt.

This will be my first time working on a 16 oz heavyweight wool. Excited and anxious at the same time.

[BearTartan]

Indeed, I had noticed that 'inverted' black line too. I'm guessing, just guessing, that it may have to do with the fact the Chris at beartartan had supplied me with fabric that's several inches longer than their normal 27" single-width. They don't come in double-width. That point may be the middle of the bolt if it were doubled. And yes, the vertical stripes would be reversed if I try to splice. And I have 8 yards of it so no need to join. I'm planning to make a box-pleated kilt.

This will be my first time working on a 16 oz heavyweight wool. Excited and anxious at the same time.

Mein is right on this. The width shipped to him was actually around 36 inches (our normal width is 27 inches), but we had an excess on this part of the bolt and decided to ship the extra width gratis. Normally, the width would end at the overcheck crosshatch point (the midpoint of the bolt as Mein & Rocky correctly assumed) before the stripe pattern reverses (near the bottom on the pic on Meins post).
If you ask him nicely maybe he can make you all tartan flashes with the extra material. lol.
Oh, and we can supply double width if required. There's just never been demand for it before.

[meinfs]

Mein is right on this. The width shipped to him was actually around 36 inches (our normal width is 27 inches), but we had an excess on this part of the bolt and decided to ship the extra width gratis. [...]
If you ask him nicely maybe he can make you all tartan flashes with the extra material. lol.
Oh, and we can supply double width if required. There's just never been demand for it before.

LOL - yes, lots of tartan flashes Oh and thanks again for the extra width.

[Barb T]

I noticed it ws described as 'Jura' which would mean 16 oz cloth from Marton Mills

One thing I noticed about the a-symmetry... look at the picture CLOSELY... the BOTTOM black line in the pic (horizontal) is on the OTHER side of the tartan. This MAY allow it to be cut and spliced, HOWEVER, the vertical kilt stripes will move from one side of the block to the other side at the splice. I'm ASSUMING that the grey / white pivot line just above the bottom of the picture is the MIDDLE of the bolt when I talk about the a-symmetry being splice-able... kind of.

Is this making sense?

But doesn't it still make it impossible to simultaneously line up the selvedge, the twill line, and the weft-wise order of the stripes?? Or am I not thinking this through correctly? You could match selvedge and the twill line and the warp-wise order of the stripes, but wouldn't the weft-wise order still be a mirror image across the center back? You could make the weft-wise order work, but you'd have to flip the tartan, and the twill lines would be mirror images. Or am I screwed up somewhere?

[fluter]

Barb, I think you and Rocky just said the same thing.

But doesn't it still make it impossible to simultaneously line up the selvedge, the twill line, and the weft-wise order of the stripes??... wouldn't the weft-wise order still be a mirror image across the center back?

... cut and spliced, HOWEVER, the vertical kilt stripes will move from one side of the block to the other side at the splice

I'll bet it would look cool as a Reverse Kingussie.

[meinfs]

I'll bet it would look cool as a Reverse Kingussie.

You hit that right on the spot! Brilliant! The mirror-imaged multi-color stripes would work perfectly in a reverse kingussie!

Convert the asymmetrical design into a symmetrical one. It's like converting matter into energy! lol. Or the more common saying "turning lemons into lemonade."

The blacks stripes will end up radiating away from the center of the kingussie pleats. (The original picture is actually upside down - the selvedge is on the top of the picture).


HOWEVER, having said that, the Bear Tartan may not lend itself well to showing the multi-color stripe as the main vertical lines shown in the pleats - mostly because it is thick (wide) and may cause some unnecessary busy-ness in the pleat display.

I shall try to pin it in various ways to show off certain aspects of the sett. (I'm excited)... Being couped-up indoors during this The Inauguration weekend --- that may provide me with something to do (as if I didn't have plenty already) lol.