Kilted Prison Reform

**Panache** · 22nd February 09, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Riverkilt

And I'm guessing its really hard to see my tongue when its firmly planted in my cheek...

Ron,

I read your post and didn't see anything there that made me think that you were joking or being silly. All I could think about was how very easy if would be for prisoners to carry illegal / dangerous items about their person wearing some sort of kilt.

FYI: The use of the emoticons or "smilies" are an aid to help convey a humorous intent.

Originally Posted by Riverkilt

...gonna don my helmet and lay low in the foxhole until the firing dies down.

One has to take responsibility for one's words. If you truly started this thread intending humor, you have failed. Realizing this, Instead of lying low because you have stirred people up, the proper response is to apologize.

"Gee I didn't mean to stir people up" or "I don't see why people are stirred up" do not help.

"Gee I'm sorry all, I was just joking. Please don't take what I wrote seriously" does.

I believe the hardest things in this world to say for most people are "I was wrong" and "I'm sorry"

Sadly these two phrases are the ones that are of the most use when dealing with other people.

Respectfully

Jamie

**Woodsheal** · 22nd February 09, 11:57 AM

People who willingly break the law, are caught, convicted, and sent to prison, have abrogated their rights to choice of garb or anything else. And besides, we have enough "jail house fashion" wandering our streets now! Adding kilts to that "wardrobe" would be obscene....

**cessna152towser** · 22nd February 09, 12:49 PM

I think forcing prisoners to wear kilts would be restrictive of their freedom of choice in exactly the same way as the current requirement to wear existing prison garb restricts their freedom of choice. Many prisoners have done wrong and do deserve to be incarcerated and thus to be forced to wear prison clothes, but others are innocent, held on remand and awaiting trial, or wrongly convicted. Having worked in the legal profession I see prisoners as ordinary people like us who have their own worries, fears and anxieties and would not condemn somebody because they have been in prison, whether having brought it on themselves or through misfortune.

**The Barry** · 22nd February 09, 02:00 PM

I believe that there are some rather offensive gross generalizations going on here.

Glass houses and stone casting comes to mind.

My $.02

**Chas** · 22nd February 09, 02:28 PM

As a prison visitor I can only agree with this sentiment. Prisoners are sentenced to a loss of liberty not a loss of dignity. Regardless of what they wear, they all still have the same number of body cavities in which to hide things.

Originally Posted by The Barry

I believe that there are some rather offensive gross generalizations going on here.

Glass houses and stone casting comes to mind.

My $.02

I would have thought that tolerance was the one virtue that members of this forum would want to espouse. Or maybe people only want tolerance for themselves?

Regards

Chas

**beloitpiper** · 22nd February 09, 02:44 PM

Why should we issue kilts to prisoners when there's so many poor Scots that go without!

**Chas** · 22nd February 09, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by beloitpiper

Why should we issue kilts to prisoners when there's so many poor Scots that go without!

Weren't you the one who was proudly telling us two weeks ago that you had relatives who were paramilitary fighters? I truly do not understand. You obviously have not read the previous post.

**Expat2011** · 22nd February 09, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Riverkilt

Chas mentioned a member of the rabble may not be posting due to incarceration.

Got me to thinking (run!!).....

Ron

For what it's worth I thought the original post was written at least somewhat tongue-in-cheek. As was my response.

**pdcorlis** · 22nd February 09, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Chas

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...Prisoners are sentenced to a loss of liberty not a loss of dignity....

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I would have thought that tolerance was the one virtue that members of this forum would want to espouse. Or maybe people only want tolerance for themselves?

Regards

Chas

I whole-heatedly agree with you sir.

**Riverkilt** · 22nd February 09, 04:51 PM

"I read your post and didn't see anything there that made me think that you were joking or being silly."

"Got me to thinking (run!!)....."

If my warning was too subtle, then I was wrong.

Ron
who respectfully declines smileys
and who's maternal grandmother bought in to the War of the Worlds in 1939 and evacuated her family from Missoula, Montana because she was positive the Martians would follow the railroad tracks to her home.