Style, Fashion Rules, traditions, Flat caps, and the missing element...

**Rollo** · 13th March 09, 06:21 AM

I agree Matt's point of view

**macwilkin** · 13th March 09, 06:30 AM

The though of wearing a wool jacket and vest for most of the year brings images of a sauna to mind. I like the look and style of jacket and vest with a kilt, but I would imagine that some would look at a light weight cotton/linen jacket and vest disrespectful to highland customs and traditions. For me it is a fact of reality adapting to the local conditions.

As a traditionalist, I would agree with this. Thompson actually discusses this point in his wee book, and so does Bob Martin.

Remember, the Highland regiments of the British Army adopted particular articles of clothing for service in tropic climes, such as white tunics, pith helmets, etc. It stands to reason that an American civilian in the South might adopt a light weight cotton jacket and waistcoat.

Regards,

Todd

**Friday** · 13th March 09, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

As a traditionalist, I wouldn't.

Which is perfectly correct and right and I will defend your right to this opinion, as WRONG

as it is.

I grew up in Maryland with my family coming from West Virginia. Early in my career I moved to south Florida and would often go out to the middle of the road to stare at the strip in the road. I just needed to see a change in elevation. I then move to Memphis for a number of years. My wife and I spent many a weekend driving and visiting through out the Ozarks to enjoy the mountains and the people.

As I think back I can see the influence of the early Scottish settlers in the local culture. I would like to see if/how the highlander that first came to the Ozarks adapted their "traditional" wear to the needs of the area. If I remember correctly there was often a 10 or more degree (F) change in temperature between the flats of Memphis and the wee hill of the Ozarks.

**macwilkin** · 13th March 09, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by Friday

Which is perfectly correct and right and I will defend your right to this opinion, as WRONG

as it is.

I grew up in Maryland with my family coming from West Virginia. Early in my career I moved to south Florida and would often go out to the middle of the road to stare at the strip in the road. I just needed to see a change in elevation. I then move to Memphis for a number of years. My wife and I spent many a weekend driving and visiting through out the Ozarks to enjoy the mountains and the people.

As I think back I can see the influence of the early Scottish settlers in the local culture. I would like to see if/how the highlander that first came to the Ozarks adapted their "traditional" wear to the needs of the area. If I remember correctly there was often a 10 or more degree (F) change in temperature between the flats of Memphis and the wee hill of the Ozarks.

You misunderstand me, sir -- I am supporting your idea, not condemning it. My sincere apologies for lack of typing skills this morning.

Read my second paragraph.

Not many Highlanders in the Ozarks, mostly Ulster-Scots, Lowlanders and Borderers, neither of which were very keen on kilts and all that.

So, again...I agree with you. :mrgreen:

T.

**Friday** · 13th March 09, 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

You misunderstand me, sir -- I am supporting your idea, not condemning it. My sincere apologies for lack of typing skills this morning.

Read my second paragraph.

Not many Highlanders in the Ozarks, mostly Ulster-Scots, Lowlanders and Borderers, neither of which were very keen on kilts and all that.

So, again...I agree with you. :mrgreen:

T.

And the same right back, I agree with you.

I fully understood that you were defending my opinion, as wrong as it is for you. But that is what make this a great place we can all be right and all be wrong on the same subject. My opinion is just that MY opinion. I do not believe that my opinion is right or applies to anyone else but me. I don't even believe my opinion applies to my wife, just to me.

Perhaps if I had more money or weighted 100+ pounds less I would be more of a traditionalist. But the fat tax on kilts and kilt related clothing make me be very creative most of the time. This might be part of the reason I often chaff when I interpret a statement as this is how you MUST wear a piece of clothing. I would like to but don't have the extra cash to purchase what is needed.

Todd thank you for you participation and insight that you give.

Chris

**JSFMACLJR** · 13th March 09, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by Friday

Perhaps if I had more money or weighted 100+ pounds less I would be more of a traditionalist. But the fat tax on kilts and kilt related clothing make me be very creative most of the time. This might be part of the reason I often chaff when I interpret a statement as this is how you MUST wear a piece of clothing. I would like to but don't have the extra cash to purchase what is needed.

Chris

Money is often the canard used by some to say they cannot afford "traditional" clothing. Actually, it is more a matter of priorities. There is much to be said about saving one's coin for the better quality item. Scotus began a thread discussing this very concept, to which I draw your attention.

**macwilkin** · 13th March 09, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by Friday

I fully understood that you were defending my opinion, as wrong as it is for you.

I'm not sure I quite understand why it is "wrong" for me to agree with your position.

T.

**Friday** · 13th March 09, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

I'm not sure I quite understand why it is "wrong" for me to agree with your position.

T.

Ah back to my original post in this thread, I am not sure, if what I am saying (thinking), what I am typing and what you are hearing are the same.

What I was trying to say, in a joking way, therefore the

, that in your opinion, for you to wear cotton/linen jacket and vest (my opinion) is wrong. Not that my having this opinion is wrong just that the object of my opinion does not work for you.

**macwilkin** · 13th March 09, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by Friday

Ah back to my original post in this thread, I am not sure, if what I am saying (thinking), what I am typing and what you are hearing are the same.

What I was trying to say, in a joking way, therefore the

, that in your opinion, for you to wear cotton/linen jacket and vest (my opinion) is wrong. Not that my having this opinion is wrong just that the object of my opinion does not work for you.

Now you're putting words in my mouth and making assumptions. :mrgreen:

As I stated before, I actually agree with your logic about adopting Highland attire for the climate you find yourself in.

T.

**JSFMACLJR** · 13th March 09, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Friday

Ah back to my original post in this thread, I am not sure, if what I am saying (thinking), what I am typing and what you are hearing are the same.

What I was trying to say, in a joking way, therefore the

, that in your opinion, for you to wear cotton/linen jacket and vest (my opinion) is wrong. Not that my having this opinion is wrong just that the object of my opinion does not work for you.

A linen or hopsack jacket, or one in a summer weight wool, is an excellent option for our summers. Certainly one needs to use common sense and adapt one's clothing to the climate.