Order of the Crown of Stuart

[gilmore]

There is a bulletin board devoted to alternative histories, What If. It contains these threads on the consequences of Jacobite successes.

Bonnie Prince Charlie wins the 1745 Rising:
Part 1

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.h...4c2e962ec8e499

Part 2
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.h...05a2b70ecef1fa


Part 3
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.h...12f9ca257658dc

Charles III succeeds Anne http://groups.google.com/group/soc.h...dde0210e3ee031

If Charles I had fled to Virginia http://groups.google.com/group/soc.h...d6144cd7a3328d

[McClef]

I love "what if" stories.

But the scenario of Cumberland replacing his father as Monarch, however brief a reign, over the superior claims of Frederick, Prince of Wales, is somewhat fanciful as it would have required the actual abdications of George II, Frederick and Frederick's son George (later George III).

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

I love "what if" stories.

But the scenario of Cumberland replacing his father as Monarch, however brief a reign, over the superior claims of Frederick, Prince of Wales, is somewhat fanciful as it would have required the actual abdications of George II, Frederick and Frederick's son George (later George III).

er... that's why it's called fiction.

[McClef]

But historical fiction still requires detailed research so that scenarios appear authentic.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

But historical fiction still requires detailed research so that scenarios appear authentic.

Quite true, but the historical accuracy is only necessary to frame the characters and plot and to keep everything more or less on track. What the characters say, or do, need have no basis in historical fact, unless one is dramatizing historical events as opposed to writing historical fiction, which is a different genre.

Historical writing is telling what happened.
Historical dramatizing is showing what historically happened.
Historical fiction tells a story which is set against an historical backdrop that shapes the events of the story and molds the personality of the characters involved in that story.

But you are right about one thing: all three require huge amounts of research!

[Rollo]

For a genealogical chart showing the Jacobite monarchs, see http://www.jacobite.ca/gentree.htm

Very interesting !

[McClef]

What the characters say or do need have no basis in historical fact providing it does not conflict with what is actually known.

Some writers have done excellent jobs of doing this - Jean Plaidy for example.

[sathor]

What the characters say or do need have no basis in historical fact providing it does not conflict with what is actually known.

Some writers have done excellent jobs of doing this - Jean Plaidy for example.

Reminds me of a short story by Lawrence Watt-Evans where a guy is in jail for killing Marlyn Monroe, saying he was from the future, supporting it with a newspaper article with an article that she killed JFK, and his job was to prevent it. (My summary hardly does the story justice.)

[McClef]

Ah with time travel we could go back to Derby and tell Prince Charlie the way to London was open!