The most ridiculous.......

[macwilkin]

The following are HIGHLAND TRADITION, pre 1782
1. Designated Clan Tartans
2. Knife Pleated 8 yd Kilt
Actually both are of ENGLISH innovation.

Puffer

Since when was William Wilson & Sons of Bannockburn an English firm?

Todd

[puffer]

Since when was William Wilson & Sons of Bannockburn an English firm?

Todd

Yes they wove Tartan Cloth. But ???

1, Besides those used by the "Regiments, were these Clan Tartans ( restricted for use by a specific clan ??
2. Were the Kilts made from these Knife Pleated ?? (exclude the "Regiments") ??

Puffer

[macwilkin]

Yes they wove Tartan Cloth. But ???

1, Besides those used by the "Regiments, were these Clan Tartans ( restricted for use by a specific clan ??
2. Were the Kilts made from these Knife Pleated ?? (exclude the "Regiments") ??

Puffer

They were the ones who assigned clan names to tartans:

http://www.albanach.org/sources.htm

Regards,

Todd

[Detroitpete]

MYTH: Scottish food and athletic events were created on a dare.

Oh...wait...those may be FACTS. I'll have to get back to ya on that ;-)

[Nighthawk]

I was told the other day it's a taboo to wear my long hair in a ponytail when I'm kilted... Go figure that one out! Luckily, it was one of my martial arts instructors who told me that, so I was able to dispel that myth... at least, with him! ( I lohe you oop: )

[Nighthawk]

My daughter took over my keyboard... Kids. /konjk

[O'Callaghan]

They were the ones who assigned clan names to tartans:

http://www.albanach.org/sources.htm

Regards,

Todd

Wilsons did certainly assign quite a few names to tartans. It seems that they added to their catalogue the names of people who had ordered a particular tartan, and then others of the same name often ordered the same tartan.

However, this is far from the only way that tartan names came about. Some came from the bogus book by the "Sobieski Stuart Brothers" conmen. A few genuinely existed in ancient times. Some are very recent. Some were chosen by the chiefs in 1822 to visit the King.

[macwilkin]

Wilsons did certainly assign quite a few names to tartans. It seems that they added to their catalogue the names of people who had ordered a particular tartan, and then others of the same name often ordered the same tartan.

However, this is far from the only way that tartan names came about. Some came from the bogus book by the "Sobieski Stuart Brothers" conmen. A few genuinely existed in ancient times. Some are very recent. Some were chosen by the chiefs in 1822 to visit the King.

I am very much aware of the Sobieski Stuart Brothers and their "big book o' tartans" -- but if you read Matt's article, you would note that Wilson's of Bannockburn came before the brothers and the 1822 visit of King George IV. You're preaching to the choir.

In any case, my point was that the clan tartan was not invented by Englishmen, although they certainly jumped on the bandwagon after George's visit, pink tights and all!

T.