Buttons on a Doublet

[Phil]

Comments?

All I can see is that in the first picture (Mackenzie) the left-hand side of the jacket is completely covered by a fly-plaid. So it is not possible to see whether or not there are any buttons on that side.
Srewart Christie's take on a regulation doublet from the early 1950's and probably earlier appears to only have buttons on one side -


I am sure that there will have been many small variations from tailor to tailor and between clients' individual tastes.

[JSFMACLJR]

What? You don't believe me?

Okay then, photographic evidence:





















Believe me now? With some of the photos you will have to look closely, and maybe use a bit of imagination/common sense to see what I am talking about.

[JSFMACLJR]

And four artistic renderings:

[Phil]

Please have the courtesy to actually read my post. The first picture you posted has one side of the jacket obscured by a fly plaid. The subject does not warrant any further comment as you obviously intend to follow an adversarial route.

[Chas]

Hi JSFMACLJR,

I recognise Rafal Heydel-Mankoo, but who is that with him? Rafal seems to have disappeared off the face of the world - he doesn't answer his emails or update his blog and most of his memberships seem to have lapsed. How long ago was this picture taken?

Regards

Chas

[Jack Daw]

I hope without changing the subject (but as an interesting aside), I see that with the castellated hose depiction, the sgian dhu is tucked ONLY inside the garter and OUTSIDE of the hose. Is this preferred or an individual choice?

[JSFMACLJR]

Please have the courtesy to actually read my post. The first picture you posted has one side of the jacket obscured by a fly plaid. The subject does not warrant any further comment as you obviously intend to follow an adversarial route.

Back off with the snotty attitude, Phil! Of course I read your post! I'm not daft, my friend.

[JSFMACLJR]

Please have the courtesy to actually read my post. The first picture you posted has one side of the jacket obscured by a fly plaid. The subject does not warrant any further comment as you obviously intend to follow an adversarial route.

Phil,
One can tell from the picture with the plaid, that there are no buttons on the left side of the jacket, because of the placement of the buttons along the right front side. You do not have to see the other side to tell that there would be no buttons on it.

[JSFMACLJR]

Hi JSFMACLJR,

I recognise Rafal Heydel-Mankoo, but who is that with him? Rafal seems to have disappeared off the face of the world - he doesn't answer his emails or update his blog and most of his memberships seem to have lapsed. How long ago was this picture taken?

Regards

Chas

Hi Chas,
Yes that is Rafe with the late Lumsden of Cushnie. The pics were taken at a Royal Stuart Society function a couple of years ago.

Cheers,
Sandford

[Bugbear]

... You are right to wonder about "dress eccentricity." Of course a gentlemen went to his tailor with specific thoughts. My evening waistcoats, for example, have four buttons, instead of the more commonly seen three. I personally find the 3 x 3 button placement not my favourite: that is why I asked my tailor to make this doublet up with buttons on one side, as was the standard for the "regulation style doublets" some time back. ...

The low cut, four button waistcoat is an interesting idea. I'm guessing that the buttons are basically closer and the cut of the waistcoat is, for the most part, the same as a three button waistcoat?

I don't have a PC or doublet in front of me to study in detail or try on, but I like the symmetry of the buttons on both sides. I am working on a kilt cut jacket, right now, that will have buttons on both sides of the closure, but the buttons are next to the edge of the closure. It would be like a two button Argyle with buttons also covering the buttonholes. Just an experiment, and why this thread caught my attention.