The most ridiculous.......

[gilmore]

Oh no! Not King John! Anybody, but not King John!

Afraid so. As they say, you can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your relatives.

King John was quite prolific, having had at least eight or so children who lived to adulthood, as I recall, including the illegitimates. Some sources put the number of the latter higher.

He married one of his daughters to Llewellyn ap Irowerth, Prince of Wales. His other close descendants include the kings of Scotland and the Balliols. In just six generations they numbered in the hundreds, too many to cut and paste a list of them in this post. They are set out here: http://www.genealogics.org/descend.p...00807&tree=LEO

[Ancienne Alliance]

How about : "The past is glorious "


Best,

Robert

[Ancienne Alliance]

here is another one :

"Our ancestors were the good guys."


Best,

Robert

[Old Hippie]

What is the most ridiculous myth / mis-information you have heard about kilts, highlanders, Scottish history, clans, clan crests, heraldry, etc? Perhaps we could put them all in one thread for newbies to read and thus help to dispel said myths.

Some of my favourites are contained in this book:

Campbell, D.[onald] (1862). A Treatise on the Language, Poetry, and Music of the Highland Clans: with Illustrative Traditions and Anecdotes, and Numerous Ancient Highland Airs. Edinburgh: D.R. Collie & Son.

I know of at least one copy extant in the U.S. and one copy extant in Canada, so an inter-library loan can be easily arranged. Campbell was writing at a time when the first flush of brigadoonery and tartaneering had begun to play out a bit, and people were questioning the truth of what they'd been told about Scottishness.

My all-time favourite is Campbell's assertion that the poetry of Ossian is, in fact, genuine. He cites as supporting evidence that the "discoverer" of Ossian's poetry, MacPherson, was such an execrable poet in English that he could never have forged the intricate and compelling Gaelic verse attributed to the Scottish bard.

:ootd:

[Carolina Kiltman]

I have just scrolled through all the previous posts (including mine own) and I thought of one more myth: That the Kirkin' O the Tartan, dates back to the acts of proscription. . . . that people hid pieces of their clan tartans, and would sneak them into the church for a special blessing.

This has been well covered in another thread. I think the true origin, by the Rev. Peter Marshall, as a means of raising money to aid the Scots who were being bombed during the early days of WWII is far and away much more fabulous. The outpouring of concern (and money) for a people from whom most of us are several generations removed, is truly a wonderful thing.

[macwilkin]

I have just scrolled through all the previous posts (including mine own) and I thought of one more myth: That the Kirkin' O the Tartan, dates back to the acts of proscription. . . . that people hid pieces of their clan tartans, and would sneak them into the church for a special blessing.

This has been well covered in another thread. I think the true origin, by the Rev. Peter Marshall, as a means of raising money to aid the Scots who were being bombed during the early days of WWII is far and away much more fabulous. The outpouring of concern (and money) for a people from whom most of us are several generations removed, is truly a wonderful thing.

Aye, here's an article on the real history of the Kirkin':

http://www.scottishtartans.org/kirkin.htm

By the way, Fernec M. Szasz tells a story about the Chief of the Cherokee Nation, John Ross (whose father was Scottish) calling for the Cherokees to raise funds to send to Scotland in 1847 for famine relief. Ross reportedly said in article in The Cherokee Advocate: "Have the Scotch no claim on the Cherokees?" "Have they not a very especial claim? They have."

The Cherokees reportedly raised $190 for the Scots.

Regards,

Todd

[Nick the DSM]

Funny displays of Highland Dress I've seen lately.

1. Combat boots with belted plaid.

ummmm, uh oh.

[jhockin]

(Quote): "Funny displays of Highland Dress I've seen lately.

1. Combat boots with belted plaid. Machine made kilt hose and Garter flashes too.

2. Sandals with machine made kilt hose."

( kilt police/fashionistas are alive and well!)