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24th April 09, 07:27 AM
#51
That's pretty much why I won't work anything that has to do with retail or sales. Integrity is important!
That being said, I don't think I've ever seen a group of people so willing to sell someone else's product at the expense of their own. To me that make the kiltmakers here like Jerry, Rocky, Barb, et al. top notch folk.
elim
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24th April 09, 08:02 AM
#52
I agree with Steve, Robert, and Rocky, I try to just be informative about my product, and as Rocky was saying its a fine line sometimes.
I don't post often because I want people to be fairly informed and sometimes i may come off at being biased. The only time i may have gotten a little emotional about and other products when it came to the Bright Skye vs Isle of Skye PV, so keep in mind folks there is a wealth of info on this board just ask .
I have done a many games in the 4 years CCK has been in operation and the only time I get annoyed is when I see someone pay very little money for a kilt that is supposed to be 16oz wool and the look on their face when you let them know its not was it is said to be .
MacHummel
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24th April 09, 08:10 AM
#53
well
I found the sgian dubh on two other sites that allscottish.ca was out of stock on. Both sites have the same stock photo's, and both sites are gold bros. sites. Oh well.
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24th April 09, 08:38 AM
#54
So far the folks at SWK and USAK have always been happy to answer my questions and enjoy very much what they do. I always take in what the sponsers of xmarksthescot have to say and trust they are giving their most honest opinion just as all members of this forum do. That's why I'm here and read the posts several times a day.
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24th April 09, 11:44 PM
#55
Colonel MacNeal sir: the label inside says its 100% Pure New Wool. I know my fabric and this is wool. I'd call it a medium weight, myself, definitely not light weight.
I've kilt for less.
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28th April 09, 07:23 PM
#56
I had to log in and say thank you for all the advice and coments on my items,
I get my Kilts from Scotland I have also bought kilts from other websites at a loss to me because I advertised I could get it but found out later that some of the companys in Scotland will only sell to Store fronts and not to someone trying to kilt the world.........
Of course I also sell PV economy kilts not everyone can afford a real kilt but what is a real kilt?......
I lived in Scotland for over 22 years from Birth then moved to Ottawa Canada, and you know something the only time I saw anyone wearing a kilt in Scotland was either New years eve, Robbie Burns day or in some cases the 12th of July, it was not until i came to Canada and went to a store with $200 and tried to buy a kilt I was basically laughed out of the store, it was then I deceided to do something for the folks like me.
I started this website and i sell my items cheap because I don't have the overhead of staff or a store front or containers full of items, I order my items to size when i get an order, if I have stuff left over I sell on eBay,
I can honestly say I have had no complaints from any of my customers on ebay or any of my items that I have sold from my website.
When someone emails me with questions I try to answer them to the best of my ability, I don't pretend i know everything and if I don't have an answer I put them in touch with someone who does know I have even promoted this site a couple of times.
I have not logged on this past month as I do have a day job and this past month it's been hectic I have found that I have little time to enjoy reading what people have to say on this site, I have even missed a couple of lodge meetings as well as our Sons Of Scotland meeting recently.
So Please if you miss me or have a question contact me from my site.
Thanks for reading and hope to hear from you all on X-Marks or in an email.
Sean
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29th April 09, 02:10 PM
#57
Just ordered 13oz black watch for use kicking about in the woods. Will advise how fast, the quality. I am excited to see what I get for $70 including shipping.
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29th April 09, 03:03 PM
#58
I want to pipe in here as well as a member of the forum AND owner of Skye Highland Outfitters. I personally think that there is no problem with what the gentleman is doing. I have bought 2 PV kilts off ebay and LOVE them. I have bought a SWK Black Watch wool and LOVE it. These kilts are made in Pakistan, and they are sold at an affordable price. If the Gold-Bros bring some aunties and nephews over to the UK and have them stitch kilts with cheap material (or material woven at one of the mills), it really shouldn't matter. They ARE being made in the UK. They're just not being made by natives (And for that matter, many Pakistanis and Indians ARE native Scots being born there, so it may even be a touch ethnocentric bias), so people tend to think that there's some white lie being told.
The real problem as a vendor is the VAST majority of people that want to buy kilts are just not that serious about it. They probably went to the games, liked it, and thought "Hey, I should get a kilt for these kinda' occasions". They go to a web site and see a 500$ price tag for a wool Macdonald kilt at a "traditional" kilt site, and then see the 155.00$ price tag for what seems to be the same thing on a Gold-Bros reseller. Its absolutely a no brainer. When I was first starting S.H.O., i ordered plenty of sample from Pakistan AND Gold-Bros. It was what it was. An OK, cheaper alternative that wasn't really that bad. But it didn't satisfy me, thus we decided to locate craftspersons here in the States who could make a sporran, or a pair of hose, or a jacket to my snobbish expectations.
So whats my point-People that resell Gold-Bros and the like in the long run will help us who feel we are putting more quality and craft into our product. Why??? Because someone who buys a Gold-Bros kilt will wear it, start loving it, but over time realize what it may be lacking-So when it comes to the next purchase, they'll feel more empowered to spend the extra bucks for the product. I know this is true, because almost every sporran we've made and sold went to someone who had picked up a cheap ebay sporran, liked it, but wanted something better after a while.
So good on the new canadian vendor. I wish you luck in your venture.....I certainly would never lmao at anyone, but I'm sure you felt we may have been coming down on you a tad. Just a hint-One of the most successful kilt sellers in N.A. is SWK. Jerry is honest and upfront about his product, but lets the quality stand up to any criticism about where its made. Fololow that route, and you'll be fine.
Last but least. I am married to the most SOUTHERN BELLE wife (If you talked to her on the phone, you'd think she's Scarlett O'Hara). Born and bred right here in Atlanta. BUT-both her parents are from India. Her motto is "Southern by the Grace of God", and will let you know otherwise should you think thats not possible because her ancestry is from India. So a Scot of Pakistani origin stitching a kilt might feel slighted for not being a "Real Scottish" kilt maker.
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29th April 09, 04:10 PM
#59
smurphs1
Just out of curiosity. What mill does your poly viscose come from?
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29th April 09, 09:52 PM
#60
There are many talented people on this site who give of their time and knowledge freely so that newbies like me get the right information to be able to make informed decisions. And to them, we are grateful even though we don't always say it.
An informed decision does not necessarily mean a hand made and (to some) an expensive kilt. I personally opted for a Burnett and Struth hand made 13 oz kilt for my first kilt but if the "try a cheaper model to see if I like it" plan works for you then who is to critize it?
So I think some of us have to get our nose out of the sky. I e-mailed the guy and he responded promptly and honestly and invited me to see his inventory when he gets it. I think we have to give him a chance and then wait for the feedback/reviews from poeple who have purchased his product. He may not have the polished manners of seasoned kilt makers/sellers yet or fancy web site but a guy has to start somewhere.
He seems to be taking any criticism constructively and I say let's give him a chance to see what he can do.
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