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10th July 09, 02:08 AM
#61
 Originally Posted by Macdonald Sporrans
As far as i'm aware, mytartan don't wholesale Gold Brothers, Gold Brothers import these kilts themselves.
Also as far as i know, The Scotland Kilt Company is an independent company, not part of Gold Brothers.
I went to their warehouse in Edinburgh to pick a few accessories up. They have around 200 Gold Brothers-supplied (or just the same maker) kilts lying out.
I had asked in the shop if the gentleman who served me owned the business and was told it'd part of a larger chain.
I assumed this would be Gold Brothers
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15th July 09, 02:01 PM
#62
 Originally Posted by NorCalPiper
I think what people are wondering is if you are an Indian using a Scottish name as a front, or are you actually anglo-celt using your birth name.
actually I think it is only you interested in these things.
most unnerving actually.
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21st July 09, 02:04 AM
#63
Dear thecompaqguy,
I thought this forum was something more than just an arena for taunts and you have just showed me it's not.
Let us please keep the tone of this discussion substantial. I am happy to answer all questions but only as long as these are not just unjust and offensive remarks against my company.
I would like to clarify some issues:
- It is true that Gold Brothers company will soon start dealing on real estate market. Is anything wrong with this?
- We believe every Scot should be able to afford a kilt. This is why we produce and import budget polyviscose kilts from Pakistan and China. These are never marked as "made in Scotland" and anyone who is stating they are is obviously lying. There is a certain group of people buying our kilts and a certain range of uses for these items - few would be happy to wear their precious, handmade wool kilts around in the garden or at a football stadium. Hardly anyone can afford to do so. We have NOT been trying to fool any of our customers by stating these were made in Scotland. To be honest, we are seldom asked about the origin of our items, because - and this might come as a shock - hardly anyone cares if their £39.99 kilt was made in Scotland or not. So, do you really think what we do is a sin?
- We DO cooperate with Scottish kiltmakers and tartan mills. We have a great number of Scotland-made and UK-made items in our shops. These items are obviously more expensive, but they are still available and if someone wants to buy something made in Scotland he is welcome.
- Gold Bros company has done a lot to promote kilts and Scottish clothing all over the world. We ship our items worldwide and have a lot of happy customers that started from a polyviscose kilt and continued to buying full Scottish made outfits. Over 9000 people have already joined our Saltire Club - a loyalty programme we introduced few months ago - members can now add product reviews on our website so you can see easily what people really think about our offer.
Regards,
Heather
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21st July 09, 05:07 PM
#64
A spirited defense Heather. 
My only comment is regards to the labelling which has often been the subject of criticism.
Of course you are technically correct in stating These are never marked as "made in Scotland" but the words on the labels "Designed in Scotland" and "Authentic Highland Tartan" (and the Saltire thrown in for good measure as well) do tend to create misunderstandings and/or an incorrect impression of their origin upon the minds of the uninitiated. I am aware that other companies sell these kilts also so labeled but I am sure that your suppliers could change the labelling to something less misleading at the request of Golds, as high volume retailers of these kilts, and that the others would soon follow.
The labelling issue is a greater bugbear amongst the kilted community than your company currently seems to appreciate. If, as you claim, hardly anyone cares if their £39.99 kilt was made in Scotland or not, then neither will they care if the label is a little more upfront regarding origin.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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21st July 09, 05:58 PM
#65
My post count is low, so I may not be considered an authority, but I have been here a while, so here goes. Heather, great response, and my most sincere congratulations for remaining so civil. I have 3 kilts from Heritage of Scotland or one of their associates. I consider each a bargain, I know where the material came from and how the kilts were made, just not the name of the who made them. All are wool, 1 is 8 yard, #2 is a 5 yard that I liked so well, that #3 is also a 5 yard.
They have never been anything except upfront and honest with me, If you have questions about any purchase, ask, if you don't like the response, move on. Sam Walton is a great American hero, if he had cheap kilts you would fawn over them, regardless of source.
I insure cyber risks, and frankly, some of the proclamations against the companies and owners of Gold Brothers etal are pretty close to the arena of inviting litigation.
Sorry guys, it's just the way I see this issue
David
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21st July 09, 05:58 PM
#66
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21st July 09, 06:06 PM
#67
Personally, I don't care what the label says; if it's cheap, it should be assumed that it's not "authentic." There's a lot of us who buy goods like that, who don't generally care where it's from, or who made it; we just want the goods.
People shouldn't stress over where bargain-rate clothing comes from. You want something "authentic?" ...then do the research and pay the price for the goods you want.
Last edited by Iolaus; 25th July 09 at 11:08 PM.
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21st July 09, 06:36 PM
#68
 Originally Posted by Riverkilt
As to multiple outlets still seems a ruse to me to "capture" unsuspecting newbies.
Ron
I think it would be a good idea to have multi-shops or internet pesences. imagine have three dry cleaners in the same town, or having 10 websites all selling widgets. to me it is just a smart way to capture more market share and get your products in front of more people. There is nothing immoral or unethical about capturing more market share
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21st July 09, 06:52 PM
#69
We have been around this bush so many times, that the ground is bereft of any vegetation, and packed quite hard!
As someone who, during most of my adult life, is well off the scale for "end sizes" (6'5" 196 cm tall and only about 155 lbs or 70 kg) I had to resort to mostly either bespoke or made to measure (when I could find it.)
As a result I gained a great appreciation of quality material (when one pays for custom made, the material is the least of the cost), and the resulting durability from that choice.
I remember a sign from many decades back in a factory I worked for, which stated that there is nothing that cannot be made more cheaply by reducing quality along the way, and those who consider price the only criteria, are this man's lawful prey.
As long as the customer is aware that what he/she is getting is made cheaply, of poor quality materials, and will probably not last until next season, I have no problem with the vendor.
As has been said many times before, let's keep this civil. Now off the 
I agree that some things I have read about Gold Bros., et al is close to actionable. They are what they are, and if anyone on this forum buys from them, they certainly do so with prior knowledge. caveat emptor
The pipes are calling, resistance is futile. - MacTalla Mor
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23rd July 09, 02:39 PM
#70
Last edited by thecompaqguy; 25th July 09 at 03:48 PM.
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