Historic Painting Thread

**Ancienne Alliance** · 27th July 09, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by sirdaniel1975

I thought I'd start a thread where folks can observe several historic and historic representative paintings to possibly help get an idea of an outfit to put together.

This is such a great idea !

Thank you for having it. I will surely contribute !

Best

Robert

**Morris at Heathfield** · 27th July 09, 03:52 AM

Sir Duncan Campbell of Lochow, 1st Lord Campbell, 1635. (This is not exactly a portrait, considering Sir Duncan died in 1453.)

John Campbell, Lord Glenorchy, later 3rd Earl of Breadalbane and Holland, 1708

John Campbell, Lord Glenorchy, ca. 1735 or, more probably, the 1720s

Sheriff Charles Campbell of Lochlane, ca. 1730

John "of the Bank" Campbell of Ardmaddie, 1749

Pryse (or Pryce) Campbell, 18th Thane of Cawdor, 1762

**jmercier** · 27th July 09, 07:24 AM

Thanks for putting dates with your images. If possible, it'd be very helpfull for others to go back and put the dates with their images as well, both when painted and when it was supposed to be depicting if it differs from when it was painted.

**SoulFyre777** · 27th July 09, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by Bluescelt

It's a painting from the R. R. MacIan series on highland dress. It's a Robertson.

Well done! Thank you!

**xena** · 27th July 09, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown

I think that if you were to group the pictures by era, you'd see that the gentlemen are dressed very much according to the "rules" of the time in which they lived. Seeing these pictures out of sequence tends to give the impression that there were no standards of dress, in much the same way half a dozen baseball cards from the teens, 30's, and 70's might give the casual observer that there were no "rules" regarding the uniforms worn by ball players.

Good point. My original post may have suffered from imprecise language - sorry about that. I just was noting that the "rules" may not have been as imuttable throughout all time as some may think, and therefore giving support to some (but maybe not all!) of the modern versions of kilts.

I'm not trying to start a debate. Just a variation on "thinking out loud". Feel free to ignore.

**Ancienne Alliance** · 27th July 09, 08:33 AM

Sir Robert Dalrymple of Castleton,
one of the earliest pictures of a Lowland laird wearing tartan. Anon. c.1720

Alastair Grant Mohr, honorary Champion to the Laird of Grant,
Painted by Richard Waitt

**Ancienne Alliance** · 27th July 09, 08:45 AM

Allan Ramsay’s portrait of Francis, seventh Earl of Wemyss, and his wife Catherine.

George III as a child in Archers’ uniform by Du Pan.
This is the first time that a Hanoverian prince appears in tartan.

**Ancienne Alliance** · 27th July 09, 08:58 AM

James, fifth Earl of Wemyss, in Archers’ uniform, by an unknown artist, c. 1715.
The Royal Company of Archers, who are the Queen’s bodyguard in Scotland, were the first organised body to adopt tartan as a uniform.

Helen Balfour, wife of Gavin Hamilton, who was painted by William Mosman in 1742, wears the tartan screen or shawl popular in the eighteen century.

**Ancienne Alliance** · 27th July 09, 09:12 AM

Corporal Malcolm McPherson of the Black Watch, who was shot in the Tower of London for mutiny in 1743.

Sir Stuart Threipland Bt of Fingask by William Delacour, c. 1755.

**Ancienne Alliance** · 27th July 09, 09:42 AM

Prince Charles Edward by an unknown artist . Though unlikely to have been painted from the life, it shows the Prince wearing the kind of clothes he wore in the rising.

The Pinch of Snuff, painted by William Delacour in 1750.