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    You can get a kilt that lets you sit on the Saltire. You can get Saltire undergarments.

    These pennants are no big deal.

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    Flag Underwear

    My missus took a pic of a Female USA Athelete at the Games in Inverness this year, I was surprised at her (my wife), as she is a USA Citizen, and is normally very strongly against misuse of her National Flag.
    On asking her why she wasn't angry, she says her underwear was cloth with a representation of the Flag, but did not constitute a Flag.
    I ran this past an old USA Marine chum of mine, and he agreed with her, it is in bad taste, but a Flag is a Flag and made as such.
    I would be interested in other views on this though, BTW, she was also as you will notice, wearing the USA tartan. My take - she not only disrespected her Flag, she direspected the kilt and her tartan - but most importantly, I think she disrespected herself.
    I see too much of this here in Scotland, when people who normally only don a kilt for a wedding or the fitba' make a mockery of the kilt when drunk. Anyway, thats my take, what's yours?

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    Last edited by Urchurdan; 12th August 09 at 01:28 PM. Reason: forgot to add pic

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    That violates the Flag code, (Section 8d): "The flag should never be used as wearing apparel."

    According to the Flag Code, a flag is anything "by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag."

    These rules are not really enforceable laws, but violations should be handled by concerned citizens. If I had been there I would have verbally made that woman feel pretty bad about wearing the flag as underwear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zardoz View Post
    That violates the Flag code, (Section 8d): "The flag should never be used as wearing apparel."

    According to the Flag Code, a flag is anything "by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag."

    These rules are not really enforceable laws, but violations should be handled by concerned citizens. If I had been there I would have verbally made that woman feel pretty bad about wearing the flag as underwear.
    And she, could have as easily made you feeling even worse about sticking your nose where it didn't belong, so to speak.

    The flag code, as you note, does not have the force of law whatsoever. What does have the force of law are constitutionally protected rights to freedom of speech. That this first amendment right encompassses the use of the American---or any other---flag in ways that communicate and express has long been settled by the courts.

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    This thread has gone way off topic, and I'm sorry I am part of that, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by gilmore View Post
    And she, could have as easily made you feeling even worse about sticking your nose where it didn't belong, so to speak.

    The flag code, as you note, does not have the force of law whatsoever. What does have the force of law are constitutionally protected rights to freedom of speech. That this first amendment right encompassses the use of the American---or any other---flag in ways that communicate and express has long been settled by the courts.
    While I generally never question anyone's freedom of expression, if I find said expression troubling, as I do wearing the Flag as drawers, I will feel free to comment or debate! This sort of liberty of thought and discussion is part of what the 1st Amendment is about.
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