I currently have a 4 yard box pleat on order with John, we had emailed several times working out the details of the kilt I wanted.. John made sure the kilt I ordering, is the one I wanted... on occassion, people will assume one kilt is refered to as something else..and they place an order for the wrong kilt style.. another thing I like about John... in my case.. he noticed a post I made and questioned me about my assumptions on my order.. in my case a reference to a kilt style..box pleat/ military waist, and what I ordered.. ensuring I was not expecting an 8 yard military box pleat, with a military high rise waist.. when I ordered a midrise 4 yard box pleat.. that tells me he cares about what the customer wants.. and makes sure he meets our expectations..