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10th September 09, 09:04 AM
#91
I saw one at a games this weekend and thought it looked ridiculous, but to each his own....
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10th September 09, 09:12 AM
#92
So Jock, what you're saying is that there's a big difference between Theory and Practice.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
I have to laugh because I find myself in this same argument about non-kilt issues in my work arena at least twice a week.
So thank you for "sticking with it." I, like so many others, truly do appreciate your observations and opinions.
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10th September 09, 09:13 AM
#93
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Ancienne Alliance
This is the Saltire kilt.
They were a whole pipe band wearing it…
Best,
Robert
To me this is the equivalent to wearing those shorts that say "juicy" on the back.
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10th September 09, 09:19 AM
#94
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
Nothing more respectful than planting your **** on you nation's flag every time you sit down... nope. Nothing more respectful at all.
I think it still ranks above the flag g-strings, and near the level for the sandle/flip flops with the flag on them.
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10th September 09, 09:20 AM
#95
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Todd I have great respect for history and the lessons that can be learned from it. Not all of it is relevant though in todays world. Now Matt seems to think that box pleated kilts(not the military box pleat) and district tartans(yes we have already had this discussion!) have relevance in the Scotland of today.I and others beg to differ.
Now Jock, how would you know what is relevant in Scotland today? Oh, wait...
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Jock Scot
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by CoreyMacLeod
Originally Posted by CoreyMacLeod
Now Jock, how would you know what is relevant in Scotland today? Oh, wait...
Um. I am not sure how to take this question and could regard this as impertinent. However let's be charitable and let it pass.
I have lived one way or another in the Highlands of Scotland for most of my life, nearly 70 years. Until very recently, I used to employ rather a lot of Scots people, male and female, many of them in their twenties, in various parts of Scotland including some large(in Scots terms) towns. I prided myself on the fact that communication between us all was pretty good and I am proud to call many of them my friends. I also have three grown up sons and two teenage step children. So yes Corey, I rather think that I have more than a fair idea of what is relevant in Scotland today.
Jock, apparently the intent of my my post was not clear. I am well aware of your background. I was trying, and apparently failing, to show that if anyone here is qualified to speak on what is or is not relevant in Scotland today it would be you. That's all.
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10th September 09, 09:21 AM
#96
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by The Guy in the Kilt at UC
To me this is the equivalent to wearing those shorts that say "juicy" on the back.
And then you get chewed out for trying to read them. Especially when there is a lot of text or odd text there.
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10th September 09, 09:32 AM
#97
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Jock Scot
I think it was in the early 1950's when the "modern" hue had a competitor with the coming of the "ancient" hues and I remember my father getting a kilt made in the new "ancient" colours. There were considerable and unflattering mutters from all the family! Times have moved on! Until the weathered and muted hues arrived! Not at all popular at the time! Times have moved on again and whilst not altogether universally accepted, not much is said these days. If I was going to get a new kilt made and I might,I would(I am!) seriously considering the weathered tartan of my clan. If I were you, get the hue that you like, but if you want the most versatile hue, then go for the ancient. Although that may depend a bit on the tartan and the mill it comes from.
Interesting observation: If you go to Eilean Donan Castle, all the upholstery is covered in... wait for it.... MacRae Weathered Hunting!
Brian
In a democracy it's your vote that counts; in feudalism, it's your Count that votes.
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10th September 09, 09:40 AM
#98
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by CoreyMacLeod
Now Jock, how would you know what is relevant in Scotland today? Oh, wait...
Jock, apparently the intent of my my post was not clear. I am well aware of your background. I was trying, and apparently failing, to show that if anyone here is qualified to speak on what is or is not relevant in Scotland today it would be you. That's all.
No worries,I am sorry I misunderstood.
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10th September 09, 09:42 AM
#99
Here ..Here!
I wholeheartedly agree with Jock, additionally, and as Jock has also stated, it is my opinion, and applies only to me and how I feel about, and see the topic at hand. My opinion is free and...worth that much. That said, regardless of how humble it's origins, how romanticized it has become, no matter how much a fashion "to do", it is made to be, it is, first and foremost a national symbol, a tradition. It may be only a tradition of a hundred and a half years, but it is as much symbolic of a proud country as any other national symbol. It is undeniable that when one is seen wearing a kilt, or any reasonable, or even unreasonable facsimile of same, first thoughts are of Scotand and Scots. First questions are usually; are you Scottish, or, of what clan is that tartan? "I" feel, that, when worn as one might wear a pair of old sweats, or everyday jeans it does the spirit of the thing a great diservice and is disrespectful.
It is undeniable that, at one time, it might have been worn by the lowliest of shepherds tending a flock, using it to sleep in, or take cover under. It is also true that great things were made of a simple, but functional, garment. Regardless as to whether or not it was as common as we might think it, it has and does carry with it great symbolism and has become what it is, and is as symboic as a flag and should be treated with the same respect! I ask you, if this were not true, would it have been made illegal to wear when it was desirable to crush the spirit of a great people? It has a tradtion, a unique spirit, and a proper place in the scheme of things
That is my opinion, mileage may vary
Last edited by Dall_Piobaire; 10th September 09 at 09:49 AM.
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10th September 09, 09:45 AM
#100
Jordan
You are a mere youngster you are supposed not to be conforming! It is expected of you, so carry on not conforming!Lol
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