Theory and practice.

[Jock Scot]

Too true Phil, too true. If ever there was a time for one of Scotland's finest to set an example to the world "Sir Shaun"(never spelt his name any other way after that event) had it and he failed.

[Bruno]

Ironically, though, I do have Scottish relatives, related by marriage. That's them who is the same age as me wears the kilt (I assume not just for s
So, Bruno, do you think I should wear my wife's clan tartan, or my cousin's? As to the latter, exactly which tartan that is depends on which one he actually wears, I suppose. I would have to look at a photo of him and ID it. Do you think he would be offended if I wore the same tartan? I'm family of course, and we always got along, but I'm not a member of his clan or in any way Scottish.

You should be aware that the Glaswegian populations was massively diversified during the clearances as many highlanders migrated there (not all went overseas) So a possibility exists if you research that your cousin is actually in some way of Highland decent.

Easy thing is to ask his feelings before you start wearing it. You could go with the wife's in your case or play safe with a Munster one (I would go with an Irish in your position) I sense you are less comfortable with a Scottish clan if I'm not mistaken and it will feel comfier if you feel bold and entitled to the kilt you are in. At the end of the day its about being comfortable and enjoying your kilted experience.

[Bruno]

Oy, did you just say the traditional format is only worn by old guys?

I'm curious, what do the Scots think of the American unbifurcated garments?

-Sean

Well as a personal opinion. I do not mind a kilt in wool in a decent tartan (Many find some American patterns far to vulgar and to be honest some Scottish ones are as well) If its 5 yard or 8 yard. Its more down to respecting the traditions,rather than being a slave to them. I reckon most would hold a similar opinion about the material and some even less flexible about yardage.

Many (at the risk of getting some upset which is not my intent, by answering your request) would regard say a Plastic kilt or utility kilt as being a very strange item for a bloke to wear. Possibly thinking it was a skirt or some kind of transvestite garb. A small number would find it cool.

[dfmacliam]

What I find truly interesting is the way this thread reads.. Opinions have been stated, fairly, and discussions have ensued. Some may not like the opinons, while others accept them whole heartedly.. I seen an issue arise that I feels effects me... namely, I am mostly Irish, though English born, with a bit of Scot Lowlands decent (from Corstophine). Its good to see the advice given without the .. your Irish.. your not supposed to wear a kilt..

What pleases me, is seeing our Scot traditionalists say that even a Scot can learn from this site, which says a lot about the knowledge shared worldwide on this site. I am thankful I found the site and I have learned so much from so many.. The friendships I have developed with like minded people, not only world wide, but locally too.. To meet others who have a similar background as myself.. I used to think I was the only Brit born Irish raised in the States... It's funny.... In the States, it's regularly pointed out, that I am not from here... In the UK, it's pointed out that I am not from there.. just happened to be born there.. So yes, this site is muchly appreciated.. and so is the advice that is given.. I know I am not going to be a 24/7 kilt wearer.. but I will not be a wear it only during special events.. I'll wear it on the odd occassion that strikes my fancy.. dressing as the situation presents itself.. not only in a semi formal way, but in a casual way too...

I understand the differences in Scotland and the States.. whats accepted there and not necessarily here.. and vice versa. I learn these differences everyday.. like the simple things... We learn together and grow together.. we learn from our differences and with that we get an understanding that can only be achieved from direct communications... Its been pointed out by many.. there is no one set of rules.. but tradition does dictate proper etiquette, and the traditions are the strongest in the birthplace of the kilt.. Its funny to actually learn.. simplicity is always the key... the kilt, colored coordinated hose, simple shoes with a good shine, a waistcoat is optional, a nice tweed jacket and a tie.. and if possible.. a Regimental or the such.. a simple example makes for proper etiquette.. no bells and whistles are required.. just practicle clothing..

Thanks Jock, Phil, and the rest of you who help point out the Highland do's and dont's, thanks Matt, Slohairt,Wizard of BC,Rocky, CajunScot, MOR, and the rest who help with the points of views from this side of the pond.. and to the rest who actively make this site, what it has become... If I left a name out.. please forgive me.. I can name so many.. but I am sure it will make this post much longer than it already is..

[blackbeard]

With all due respect to you all, the first and second paragraphs of the first post on this thread does seem to have been "lost".

Oh dear I'm afraid I may have hijacked that thought to another thread while trying not to hijack this thread. Because your thoughts on kilts and “Shir Shaun's” blunders got me to thinking about non kilted formal blunders I stuck it in an off topic discussion.
Mr. Peter Marshall over the past few years has put together a pretty nice web site on (non kilted) formal wear and he has an entire page devoted to celebrity red carpet blunders. I agree with you Jock, Phil, and Mr. Marshall that whether kilted or wearing pants, rules are rules and we should not be looking to celebrities for our style guidance.... Except maybe George Clooney.

Kilt or no kilt, just because a famous person is wearing it; doesn't mean it's correct.

[Peter C.]

Interesting point about Rangers fans. If the're anything like English soccer fans then they might attack someone they thought was a Celtic fan. Mind you, ironically, most Irish actually are Celtic fans to some extent

Celtic and Rangers fans TAUGHT English soccer fans.

Peter

[Bruno]

Interesting point about Rangers fans. If the're anything like English soccer fans then they might attack someone they thought was a Celtic fan. Mind you, ironically, most Irish actually are Celtic fans to some extent

Celtic and Rangers fans TAUGHT English soccer fans.

Peter

Now I can not sit by and have you count our football fans as a second rate group, they far exceed the english version. They are held in fear by english clubs, no one wants our fans turning up at their quiet little stadiums. Extra police are on duty just Google Manchester last year.

Psh english fans are just learning, the Scots are the masters of this.

Ps a lot of Irish fans are actually rangers fans it goes by religion Catholic or Prody.

[Phil]

While always enjoying a spirited discussion, the relative merits or otherwise of football fans have absolutely no relevance whatsoever in this particular thread. There is only one possible direction for this to go and the sectarian tribalism which will ensue is only going to have this thread closed down.

[Kilted Magyar]

WOW! This certainly touched a nerve. I am a native born yank.The only "Scottish" in me is some Glenmorangie but I have been wearing a kilt since 1969 as a tribute to a friend's father who served in the Canadian Black Watch. I try to dress correctly. I love the look of the kilt. I like the way I look when wearing a kilt. It is the most comfortable garment. press on regardless...

[blackbeard]

Question to Jock and or Phil. Would a black Argyle with waistcoat have been more appropriate for the knighting ceremony and opening of Parliament? If so. What about neck wear? Is that type of ceremony equal to a church wedding or funeral?