Royal Regiment of Scotland

[JSFMACLJR]

Personally, when I asked this I didn't want to know what a "real kilt" was just what the Black Watch wear, although one might suspect that what they wear would be very rich and respcted in Scottish Tradition.

Can anyone complete the thought for me?

You do know, don't you, that the Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment) no longer exists as a regiment in the UK? That being said, the Royal Regiment of Scotland ( of which the 3rd Battalion is the old Black Watch ) wear the kilt pleated to the stripe.

The Royal Highland Regiment of Canada wear the Government tartan pleated to the stripe.

What do you mean when you say "...one might suspect that what they wear would be very rich and respected in Scottish Tradition"? Are you referring to the cost and workmanship of the kilt? Do you think the actual kilt is respected or the officers and men who wear them are respected in "Scottish Tradition"? Certainly the name "Black Watch" is highly regarded, as are all the names of the old Highland regiments.

I have tried all throughout this thread to understand what it is you are asking. Plenty of people have told you what is/was worn. If you want to wear a kilt like that worn by the officers and men of the Black Watch, then it is made with knife pleats, to the stripe, of heavyweight cloth. As Nervous Jock--himself a serving officer of the Royal Regiment of Scotland--has told you, the current kilt worn by all ranks of the Royal Regiment of Scotland, including those in the Black Watch, 3rd Battalion RRS, is box pleated to the stripe.

I hope this answers your questions.

[ziggy]

Very good, so older style is knife pleated, newer style box pleats, both to the stripe, heavyweight fabric, got it.

I think I knew that before, just got lost in all the ensuing discussion....

Thanks!

[Nervous Jock]

the current kilt worn by all ranks of the Royal Regiment of Scotland, including those in the Black Watch, 3rd Battalion RRS, is box pleated to the stripe.

and of course the tartan is different

[dfmacliam]

and of course the tartan is different

at risk of sounding ignorant... what tartan are you wearing?.. I noticed a difference but was not sure if it may have been a photo issue or age.. or...

[Nervous Jock]

at risk of sounding ignorant... what tartan are you wearing?.. I noticed a difference but was not sure if it may have been a photo issue or age.. or...

Government 1a, see attached, both the green and blue are 'lighter'

http://www.army.mod.uk/documents/gen..._Rulations.pdf

[JSFMACLJR]

and of course the tartan is different

Yes, exactly.

[Peter C.]

Phil, I have been wearing a kilt since 1957.

I had never heard of anything but a traditional knife pleated kilt till I came to the USA a few years ago.

There is no doubt that the 4yd box pleated kilt is an ancient kilt that has been revived here in the US, and is probably an ideal kilt for non Scots who have Scottish ancestry as there ancesters may well have worn such a kilt.

However, it seems to me that what is worn as Scottish national dress is decided by the indigenous people of Scotland. So it would seem that while the box pleated kilt and great kilt are ancient Scottish kilts, they are not part of Scottish national dress.

I have just made myself a 4yd box pleated kilt and it is VERY comfortable!!! You guys in Scotland should try them.

And Mat, no matter where you live in the US, ie. it doesn't matter what accent you have, the English you speak is very different than we speak in the UK.

As Sir Winston Chuchill said,"We are two countries separated by a common language."

Peter

[ziggy]

Government 1a, see attached, both the green and blue are 'lighter'

http://www.army.mod.uk/documents/gen..._Rulations.pdf

Thank you for this, that was is a very interesting document!!