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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Amish View Post
    You have to question your terminology when TWO respected kiltmakers have no idea what you're talking about.

    I went to Cuillinn Craft, after having an absolutely horrible experience elsewhere, and gave very specific instructions on how I wanted my kilt pleated. I had never heard of "catsup and mustard" and had been told by at least one kilt maker that military pleating hunting Stewart was IMPOSSIBLE because it's an asymmetrical tartan.

    When I explained that I wanted the kilt pleated to the double black stripe, he called it "pleating to block". I had never heard the term, but took his word for it, and ended up with the exact kilt that I wanted. The effect creates a "negative stripe" of the green field between two wide stripes of black.



    This is still pleating to a stripe- the green stripe in the middle of the two wider blue stripes. Because a majority of the tartan is green, though, it looks like you are pleating to an "absence" of overcheck. My Hunting Stewart kilt is pleated to alternating red and yellow stripes. This is done because the width of the sett is so wide. My previous Hunting Stewart kilt was pleated to the yellow line only and resulted in wider and deeper than average pleats due to the large sett width.

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    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Amish View Post
    You have to question your terminology when TWO respected kiltmakers have no idea what you're talking about.

    I went to Cuillinn Craft, after having an absolutely horrible experience elsewhere, and gave very specific instructions on how I wanted my kilt pleated. I had never heard of "catsup and mustard" and had been told by at least one kilt maker that military pleating hunting Stewart was IMPOSSIBLE because it's an asymmetrical tartan.

    When I explained that I wanted the kilt pleated to the double black stripe, he called it "pleating to block". I had never heard the term, but took his word for it, and ended up with the exact kilt that I wanted. The effect creates a "negative stripe" of the green field between two wide stripes of black.



    I don't care what you call it, it looks really good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Amish View Post
    You have to question your terminology when TWO respected kiltmakers have no idea what you're talking about.

    I went to Cuillinn Craft, after having an absolutely horrible experience elsewhere, and gave very specific instructions on how I wanted my kilt pleated. I had never heard of "catsup and mustard" and had been told by at least one kilt maker that military pleating hunting Stewart was IMPOSSIBLE because it's an asymmetrical tartan.

    When I explained that I wanted the kilt pleated to the double black stripe, he called it "pleating to block". I had never heard the term, but took his word for it, and ended up with the exact kilt that I wanted. The effect creates a "negative stripe" of the green field between two wide stripes of black.
    A couple of observations:

    1. Anyone who tells you it is impossble to pleat the Hunting Stewart tartan to "military pleating" (in other words, to the stripe) obviously is unaware that the Hunting Stewart tartan is a military tartan. They are also unaware that a tartan being symmetrical or asymmetrical has nothing to do with whether it can be pleated to stripe. In other words, I wouldn't buy a kilt from that person!

    2. Your kilt is, in fact, pleated to the stripe. It's pleated to the green stripe. It's a different stripe than is normally pleated to in this tartan (alternating R/Y), but that's ok, so long as it's what you wanted.

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    St. Amish, that is a very good looking kilt. I've heard that called pleating-to-the -horizontal-stipe, but I don't make kilts, and I'm not really entitled to an iopinion as I have no expertise.

    And--as a side note--I'm glad to see that you wear your balmoral's ribbons correctly tied.
    Jim Killman
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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    A couple of observations:

    1. Anyone who tells you it is impossble to pleat the Hunting Stewart tartan to "military pleating" (in other words, to the stripe) obviously is unaware that the Hunting Stewart tartan is a military tartan. They are also unaware that a tartan being symmetrical or asymmetrical has nothing to do with whether it can be pleated to stripe. In other words, I wouldn't buy a kilt from that person!

    2. Your kilt is, in fact, pleated to the stripe. It's pleated to the green stripe. It's a different stripe than is normally pleated to in this tartan (alternating R/Y), but that's ok, so long as it's what you wanted.

    1) That's actually why I waited to find another kilt maker. I wasn't going to drop a large sum of money to get a product that wasn't exactly what I wanted. That, and I wasn't impressed with the stitching on the sample kilt I asked to see.

    2) Even if the stripe that's being pleated to is the color of the field, it's still called a stripe? Thanks for the info.

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    For those looking for Hunting Stewart pleated to Sett, here's a shot of me on the way to the Crieff Highland Games on my BDay last yr:

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