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15th October 09, 11:33 AM
#11
Originally Posted by Panache
Back to the cloth for another go!
Cheers
Jamie
Courage, mon ami !
Best,
Robert
Robert Amyot-MacKinnon
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15th October 09, 11:56 AM
#12
Originally Posted by Panache
Comparing this method to the proper one it is a lot easier to do and it makes the large amount of extra cloth far more managable.
I'm not saying it is correct or looks better.
It is just easier and more manageable.
Jamie
I think that once you've worn the kilt in the more historically correct way a few times you'll find it just as easy to pleat, don and manage the extra material. I rarely wear my belted plaid but have gotten the process of putting it on down to less than 10 minutes. Plus, I actually find it to be, literally, the most comfortable garment I've ever worn.
It's like the comfort food of clothing.
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15th October 09, 12:10 PM
#13
Originally Posted by Panache
Nick,
Thanks for the positive encouragement for a beginner!
They are actually a type of ghillie and were a prototype made by one of XMTS' resident creative geniuses Kevin Kinney of Empire Canvas Works http://www.empirecanvasworks.com/ (the same guy who made my canvas shirt)
A few of us on XMTS have things made by him and he is a brilliant craftsman.
Sadly these never made it into production
Cheers :ootd:
Jamie
No problemo, dude!
Aww, that sucks. They look really cool.
Gillmore of Clan Morrison
"Long Live the Long Shirts!"- Ryan Ross
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15th October 09, 01:02 PM
#14
huh, I know that guy in the 2nd video . . . anyhoo.
I also vote for the apron-pleat-apron way. Even aligning the pleats relatively neatly I can do my 8 yarder in under 20 min. 15 if pressed.
couple of things.
1. aligning the aprons while you are lying down will make the later adjustments minimal.
2. don't stress the extra material. the simplest is gathering the middle of what is hanging behind you (above the belt) and bringing that over the shoulder to tie/pin whatever to one of the front ones.
3. tuck in everything else.
In my case, I like the great kilt as it is the most versatile for weather. If it is warm, I bustle, so all that extra material is like a giant lumbar support. If it is cold I tie the front flaps together, put it over my head then wrap the back material over like a cloak. sometimes I pin. Works grand!
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15th October 09, 04:27 PM
#15
Problem I see is the lack of flowing golden locks.
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15th October 09, 04:30 PM
#16
Originally Posted by ccga3359
Problem I see is the lack of flowing golden locks.
Fabio???
Gillmore of Clan Morrison
"Long Live the Long Shirts!"- Ryan Ross
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15th October 09, 04:54 PM
#17
Online great kilt instructions...
"Listen Men.... You are no longer bound down to the unmanly dress of the Lowlander." 1782 Repeal.
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15th October 09, 07:00 PM
#18
Defeat, My apologies to Matt and Woodsheal
I gave it my best try gents, I honestly did!
I have spent the last hour working on trying to properly wear the great kilt
I followed the videos and the pictures
The end result was a shapeless mass that covered me, but looked anything but nice
My lovely wife looked me up and down and said "why don't you wear it the way you did the other day, that looked really good"
I have to agree with her
Maybe 6.5 yards and 1 yard wide was too much material
Maybe I need to lay out the 20+ feet of material on a flat surface outside to do this instead of our modest bedroom (though I find myself wondering in windy rainy Scotland how many days one could do this?)
So pretty soon Star and I will post pictures of our Halloween costumes
I am going to wear my "great kilt" in the way that I found to be comfortable, easy to do (5 minutes of set up), and practical.
If asked about it, I will say "The early Scots wore their kilts by pleating wool tartan cloth and fixing it around their bodies with a belt. This isn't completely accurate but it gives a sense of the way the kilt was originally worn.
I doff my plumed hat to Woodsheal, Matt, and all those that know how to properly wear a great kilt.
Should you ever find your way to California, perhaps you can instruct me in person how to do this properly.
I ask for your forgiveness when we put up pictures of our Macbeth and Lady Macbeth Costumes.
Cheers
Jamie
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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16th October 09, 03:23 AM
#19
Heck, Jamie! Have your goodwife run a line or two of stitches tacking the pleats in place, and even add two or three belt loops. No one will know you've "cheated" and you'll be able to put it on in a trice...!
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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16th October 09, 03:36 AM
#20
If your cloth is 6.5 yards long and 36" wide, no wonder you are having problems.
Better demensions would be about 4 yards long and 54" wide (at minimum, 60" if you can get it).
I think you'd find a much easier time of it.
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