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                                                19th October 09, 09:04 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			An idea for a formal jacket
		
			
				
					Hi all,
 As you may have noticed, I'm planning kilted outfits for my better half and myself for the Burns do at Ferintosh i January. And now I need some advise, again. I have had an idea for a formal jacket and waistcoat ensemble, and would like any comments you have. Especially from negative, traditionalist curmudgeons, as I am one myself at times.
 
 Thing is, I have the pattern for the outfit on the left here, the national dress from the area where I grew up. Some time ago a member of this forum (don't remember who) commented that a jacket like this one would go nicely with a kilt. What do you think of these two ideas:
 
 1) Make the jacket and waistcoat exactly as shown and wear them with a kilt.
 
 2) Make the jacket without red trimmings,  a bit shorter and with no lapels, a bit like a sheriffmuir without the flaps (but longer, reaching down to just above the sporran / just below the belt (which I won't wear with a waistcoat))
 
 Also, what do you think of the waistcoat? Is a double-breasted waistcoat a no-no with a kilt? Is the silk brocade a bit over the top? The gold one shown in the picture isn't my style, but I like the idea. Here's a list of the most common varieties in my area (although the rule is simply "whatever you like").
 Vin gardu pro la sciuroj!
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                19th October 09, 09:23 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Very nice jackets.
 I like the jacket on the right ( the red one ), and think with a few small tweeks it would with the kilt.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                19th October 09, 09:32 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Oops, I didn't see JSFMACLJR's post.  Never mind.
				 
				
					Last edited by Bugbear; 19th October 09 at 09:54 AM.
				
				
			 I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                19th October 09, 09:41 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					  Originally Posted by Ted Crocker   I think SMACLJR wears a double breasted waistcoat; he's at least talked about them, and their fine.  I don't know about the rest. I do have a red double breasted evening waistcoat; alas it has "shrunk" and now is in the possession of my sons!
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                19th October 09, 09:41 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					If you could incorporate the Inverness Flaps, then no one would know the difference.  That is for both right and left.  I think you are right, the piping should be the same colour as the jacket.
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 Chas
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                19th October 09, 09:47 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Thank you all for your comments!
 My first thought was actually to make a Sheriffmuir with this pattern as a starting point, but then I came to think about how to do the flaps, and found they're a complicating factor I really don't need if I'm to make two jackets, two waistcoats and a kilt before january 29th... Also I've never seen the back of a sheriffmuir, so I don't really know what to add. For the same reason I might drop the piping alltogether.
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                                                19th October 09, 09:47 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Here is a similar jacket, modelled on one worn by David Stewart of Achara:
 
   
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                19th October 09, 09:56 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Sorry, JSFMACLJR,  I realized I spelled your member name wrong after it was too late.   I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                19th October 09, 09:58 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I think either style of those two jackets could work.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                19th October 09, 09:59 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Last edited by Heming; 19th October 09 at 10:09 AM.
				
				
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