pirate radio movie preview

[thatcelticband]

That movie is going to rock out. I wanna be a pirate when I grow up. Maybe 40. Who's in?

Bill

I'm in!

[NewEnglander]

i don't know the song, but the movie looks excellent...you can't go wrong with hoffman, nighy, pirates and rock n roll!

[BagpiperDon]

Watched preview one -- looks like fun, I'm there.
Saw part of preview two -- methinks I'd be OKay with being that guy...

[BagpiperDon]

...and now that I've seen the 3rd one, I'm thinkin' I'd even be OKay with being him in that scenario too.

It has occurred to me, as a Highland bagpiper, I need more groupies.

[BagpiperDon]

As for the tune in question, its similar but definitely different than DKMs "Shipping Up To Boston". Maybe its an earlier version, a more acoustic version, someone else's version, just a similar tune/recording, or something that the studio intentionally put together similar-but-different ... the latest of which to me seems unlikely considering how much money would already be dumped into royalties & licenses for the music, and barring some ridiculous legal thing that would make it nigh impossible to make such use of the DKM's tune, I would think it'd be in The Murphy's best interest to have it so-used. I guess we'll have to wait and see the credits, assuming the tune is used -- I have noticed that some signature music gets reused from one film to the next and/or music will get used in a trailer/pre-view (sometimes from another film) that isn't used in the film itself -- I noted this w/ the music from StarGate, don't recall tho what the other film was that used the StarGate music (I want to say it had Nicole Kidman in it, but who knows).

[GDub]

...I have noticed that some signature music gets reused from one film to the next and/or music will get used in a trailer/pre-view (sometimes from another film) that isn't used in the film itself...

Having been through the process, I know for a fact that if it's not the DKMs playing the tune they would still get publishing compensation which is 50% of the total amount contracted for using that snippet in the trailer (the other 50% goes for performance rights). Music is NEVER used in a professional production release (whether it be for a promotional trailer or the actual movie/TV show) without a contract involved, and said contracts are hardcore legal documents that are VERY strict about intellectual property. If the snippet is being covered by someone else (whether it be another band or "in-house" studio musicians) the DKMs are at the least getting their 50%--plus I'm pretty sure they would have to OK it's use because they own the intellectual property rights to the song (along with the Guthrie family I would imagine). That the version sounds slightly different makes no difference. The people who secure music for professional productions are VERY savvy. They would never willy nilly use something that sounded so similar to another tune without covering ALL the bases because... the studio could get sued and they could get thrown out on their ear.

[BagpiperDon]

I just looked at what Wikipedia states as the titles on the soundtrack -- Wikipedia being a site that apparently at times around here can be used as the one and only oracle for The Fact(s), because someone says so ... so there.

The Fact is that the current Wikipedia page -- as per my reading, and I'm human so there could be errors -- does not list Dropkick Murphys ... although that does not definitively mean their music or music that is somehow similar could be used with a film's promotion but not in the film or soundtrack itself. Lacking time and passion around this point, I am not scouring the web for other sources, finding a torrent, calling Steven Spielberg, contacting the film's writer/director Richard Curtis by carrier pigeon or otherwise, using semaphore flags to communicate with Scruffy Wallace, swinging down to Bruce Campbell's farm residence in Oregon to pick his brains (mmm, brains), or putting a message in a bottle and crossing my fingers that I'z gets lucky that someone with the answer finds it and replies.

[BagpiperDon]

GDub,
Thanks for elucidating on this point. I think I'll have to read your post a couple of times to pull everything out as there appears to be quite a bit of valuable info for me considering I am just starting to get in to the album recording/releasing gambit. While I've learned a good deal -- I believe enough for my initial purposes of recording and releasing albums including works of my own composition* -- I have imaginings later on of submitting my recordings for use w/ movies/TV/commercials (why not, seems like additional fun), and I want to be properly prepared when/if I go into that.
Cheers, BP.D
(*actually I could use some more info on copyrighting personal compositions, if you have some words on this, please PM me)

[GDub]

Trailers are typically set apart from the actual production so a trailer tune that isn't also in the actual film will not be included in the soundtrack. That said, I still don't get why they used the DKM tune in the US trailer. To give it a little geographical leitmotiv? I dunno.

[pdcorlis]

The pirate radio era in the UK is a fascinating slice of history - this movie looks like a terrific romp down memory lane.