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12th November 09, 11:56 PM
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In general, I can agree with the stance of "it's work, no shorts". I can also understand, however, on the loading dock in the summer, shorts might actually be a better choice than long pants.
But, to me, there is a more important thing to address:
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Highland Logan
Please no eatherial hippy freedom type answers that can never be debated, but real world substantial points we can really discuse.
Frank
No offense intended, Frank, but your ethereal "hippy freedom type" answers are very much real world substantial points. I hate to say this, but something important enough to be included in almost every Western country's articles of government is more substantial than any other point to be made, with the exception of health and safety. I've yet to hear about anyone willing to die for a specific style of dress. But, millions have died in pursuit of the of the right to do what one chooses.
There is a reason the oath is to "defend the Constitution" and not "defend the government".
Death before Dishonor -- Nothing before Coffee
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione
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13th November 09, 12:12 AM
#22
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Highland Logan
As a former Army guy, maybe someone could explain why you want to put all this effort into breaking the rules rather than trying to follow them and put your apparent extra energy into doing a better job? Now before the flames start, by better job, I meant that no one is perfect, and a better job could always be done if one were to put in more effort or are we all CEO's here and have reached the top of our game.
And for those who feel the need to bend and break company policy, how do you exspect those under you, now or promotions down the road to do as you say?
And in these down and out times, where it seems that there are always 2 or 3 more people ready and willing to do your job, why would you chose to fight over clothes. I mean Health & Safety rules, sure.. but kilts over pants?
Please no eatherial hippy freedom type answers that can never be debated, but real world substantial points we can really discuse.
Frank
Many of us would take up arms to defend our country, whichever one it may be, but would never enlist in its armed forces. Although I doubt that you will understand, you have just explained exactly why that is. Thankyou.
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13th November 09, 05:09 AM
#23
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by xena
I'm afraid I have to politely ask the same question as Highland Logan. Whence cometh the automatic "fight the power" attitude whenever there are rules?...
It's an American thing.
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