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                                                18th November 09, 06:11 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	I was about to post a response to this and decided to see what Google produced.  After all, copy and past is always easier, if nothing else.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by kev_1270   Could some one explain the difference between a Balmoral and a Tam O'Shanter? 
  
 Here's someone's descriptions and though I have some problems with some of what is said here, it's a fair survey of Scottish bonnets.  http://www.scottish-wedding-dreams.c...h-bonnets.html
 
 I tend to think of the TOS as being the big, floppy knit variety, however, the military version is also referred to as a TOS.  In my mind's eye, the military version is sort of a Balmoral hybrid but not all might agree.
 
				
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                                                19th November 09, 06:05 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					That was a fairly decent summary of headwear, although I had to chuckle at this one:
 "Remember, the Highlanders flocked to the British army after the Battle of Culloden in 1747."
   
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                19th November 09, 07:45 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	I, too, am a hat guy, and I usually buy only very good hats. (OK, I have a ball cap and a wool felt Indiana Jones for knocking around, work, and wearing in the rain, but that's a single purpose example).  I'm actually a bit snobbish when it comes to hats.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by HarborSpringsPiper   BTW, it really is worth getting a quality bonnet.  I'm not sure what the bottom $ cutoff is, but I got a cheap one somewhere along the way and it was a piece of cr*p.  I gave it to somebody who was thrilled with it, but I'm a hat guy and that one wasn't more than a hot pad to me.  It was labelled "Made in Scotland" but have to believe it was only technically that, if at all.  ith: 
 So, this is good advice from HSP: always buy a good quality hat. Like shoes, sporrrans, or kilts, you'll wear it a very long time. A bonnet especially only gets better with age.
 
 And this Keltoi guy is really starting to get a good reputation in my book. Quality stuff, nice guy--I'd recommend him for your purchase and not just because he advertises here. Good stuff is good stuff.
 Jim KillmanWriter, Philosopher, Teacher of English and Math, Soldier of Fortune, Bon Vivant, Heart Transplant Recipient, Knight of St. Andrew (among other knighthoods)
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                                                19th November 09, 08:33 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Awww, thanks!
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by thescot   I, too, am a hat guy, and I usually buy only very good hats. (OK, I have a ball cap and a wool felt Indiana Jones for knocking around, work, and wearing in the rain, but that's a single purpose example).  I'm actually a bit snobbish when it comes to hats.  ith:
 
So, this is good advice from HSP: always buy a good quality hat. Like shoes, sporrrans, or kilts, you'll wear it a very long time. A bonnet especially only gets better with age.
 
And this Keltoi guy is really starting to get a good reputation in my book. Quality stuff, nice guy--I'd recommend him for your purchase and not just because he advertises here. Good stuff is good stuff.  
 Robert Mackie makes a good product and they're a good company to deal with. They've been at it since 1845 so that says something right there.
 [B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]John Hart[/COLOR]Owner/Kiltmaker - Keltoi
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                19th November 09, 08:39 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	The military TOS (like I sell) is smaller than the Balmoral and doesn't feature a cockade or ribbons. (There is a small bow, however.) They're also a lot smaller than the WW1 or WW2 style Canadian and British TOS that you would find at What Price Glory or other military reenactment shops.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by kev_1270   Could some one explain the difference between a Balmoral and a Tam O'Shanter? [B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]John Hart[/COLOR]Owner/Kiltmaker - Keltoi
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                25th November 09, 05:33 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I just came across this in the The-Royal-Regiments-of-Scotland-Dress-Regulations.  I'm not quite sure how I got to that document but here is the link. 
 http://www.scribd.com/doc/22636965/T...ss-Regulations
 
 This Ministry of Defence publication says  -
 
 "The Term Tam O' Shanter was introduces by the War Office for the older term Balmoral and the two are synomymous."
 
 This happened about 1915.
 
 To my understanding a Tam was always a less formal item then a Balmoral.
 
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
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