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22nd March 10, 11:01 AM
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I agree about the lack of red in the US Army Tartan, a shameful oversight. When I was at Fort Sill two years ago I picked up one of the embroidered cross cannon patches that were worn on officers hats in the late 1800's. I put to pins through a piece of lether and glued it to the patch. My kilt pin(s) miniature Vietnam Service Ribbon, Unit Crest, and the cross cannon patch.
I could also see a simple red patch, similar to the patch on the Balmoral, with the brass cross cannons, or unit crest.
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22nd March 10, 11:27 AM
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Once a decorum for military, I am on a quest to bring these adornments to civilian wear. I am now rosetted constantly-And I might add it adds soooo much to your kilted look. If you can adron your cell phone, or ear lobes, why not the kilt. Here's me in my MAtt Newsome Box Pleat with matching rosettes-

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22nd March 10, 05:41 PM
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 Originally Posted by NorCalPiper
Once a decorum for military, I am on a quest to bring these adornments to civilian wear. I am now rosetted constantly-And I might add it adds soooo much to your kilted look. If you can adron your cell phone, or ear lobes, why not the kilt. Here's me in my MAtt Newsome Box Pleat with matching rosettes-
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I like the red rosettes, yet the mulitcolor set look a bit odd to me. Perhaps it's just the brightness of the colors? I agree that rosettes add a unique look to one's Highland attire, yet I am not so sure about them being used for daywear, unless one is in uniform as either a reenactor, or as piper, drummer, pipe major, and drum major. Other than that, I think they should only be worn for formal occassions (if they are to be worn at all for civilian attire), when the fullest of full dress is worn. I would also include castellated hose in the category as well!
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23rd March 10, 04:53 AM
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Here's a Black Watch kilt with the bow-shaped things the regiment calls rosettes:

and being worn by the Drum Major and Pipe Major of that regiment:

It doesn't show up well but the Pipe Major's are shaped like the Drum Major's but made of Royal Stuart tartan ribbon.
Here's another view (in this case the Pipe Major of the Black Watch is the enormous man nicknamed the Big Ugg):

and in the old days:

True rosettes (which by definition have a central button) are worn by the Pipe Major of the Royal Highland Fusiliers, in this case Gavin Stoddart:

and

Gordon Walker, ex military, wears rosettes on his civilian kilt:

But they're not exclusively military, as one of the men shown in The Highlanders of Scotland has bows to his kilt.
I have this vintage photo of a civilian wearing them:
Last edited by OC Richard; 23rd March 10 at 05:06 AM.
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23rd March 10, 06:36 AM
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If I recall correctly, the bows are sometimes referred to as "Gaelic knots" or "Gaelic bows".
[B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]John Hart[/COLOR]
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24th March 10, 05:09 PM
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 Originally Posted by OC Richard
Here's a Black Watch kilt with the bow-shaped things the regiment calls rosettes:
and being worn by the Drum Major and Pipe Major of that regiment:
It doesn't show up well but the Pipe Major's are shaped like the Drum Major's but made of Royal Stuart tartan ribbon.
Here's another view (in this case the Pipe Major of the Black Watch is the enormous man nicknamed the Big Ugg):
and in the old days:
True rosettes (which by definition have a central button) are worn by the Pipe Major of the Royal Highland Fusiliers, in this case Gavin Stoddart:
and
Gordon Walker, ex military, wears rosettes on his civilian kilt:
But they're not exclusively military, as one of the men shown in The Highlanders of Scotland has bows to his kilt.
I have this vintage photo of a civilian wearing them:

Wonderful photo of Gordon Walker, Jack Lee, Roddy Macleod, Angus McColl, et al! What a great shot of some of the best pipers in the world!!! Man, would I love to have a ceilidh with them piping!!!
Slainte!!!
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25th March 10, 04:48 AM
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I just noticed that Gordon Walker is the only guy not wearing a black Argyll jacket... his is charcoal grey. He's always a notch above the rest.
And here he is again! Note that he's the only one not wearing a Prince Charlie, and that he has buckles and red laces on his ghillies...
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25th March 10, 02:40 PM
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 Originally Posted by OC Richard
I just noticed that Gordon Walker is the only guy not wearing a black Argyll jacket... his is charcoal grey. He's always a notch above the rest.
And here he is again! Note that he's the only one not wearing a Prince Charlie, and that he has buckles and red laces on his ghillies...

Yes! He is always "a notch above the rest!" I love his style. I have never seen weathered colors worn with the black and silver of Highland evening wear, until I saw Gordon Walker doing so. I love it and plan to order a Macpherson weathered 8 yarder in strome as soon as I can do it! He is always conscious of his Highland attire, it seems, and thank goodness! I always look forward to seeing photos of him and what he will be wearing next. Thanks for the lovely photos Richard.
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25th March 10, 08:04 PM
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I don't know if I just missed them when viewing pictures in the past or what, but I've got to say I really like the idea of tartan rosettes! 
Have you thought about going this route Brian?
(though I understand too the desire to honour your former branch of service)
 Originally Posted by OC Richard
Here's another view (in this case the Pipe Major of the Black Watch is the enormous man nicknamed the Big Ugg):
Gordon Walker, ex military, wears rosettes on his civilian kilt:

Great photos! 
And being a connoisseur of the handlebar moustache (after a brief hiatus mine is back ) I really like the facial hair these gents are sporting! 
 Originally Posted by OC Richard
and in the old days:
But they're not exclusively military, as one of the men shown in The Highlanders of Scotland has bows to his kilt.
I have this vintage photo of a civilian wearing them:

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[SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
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