Boy Scout kilts

[longhuntr74]

Recall seeing a scout leader in Toronto in kilt while on duty. From the Edinburgh pictures is doesn't seem that uniform is uniform except for the shirt style.

The last few pics posted as well as your reference to Toronto aren't relly a part of the recent debate. The discussion about it not being proper to wear a kilt with the Scout uniform is specifically referring to the uniform regulations of the BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA...there is no authorization for kilting with the BSA uniform...period. As discussed, venture crews can adopt their own uniforms under current BSA regs, so it would be allowed in that case...but not in the case of "the official BSA uniform."

Scouts in Scotland do have provisions for kilts...and if memory serves from reading back in this thread, they will typically wear their own clan tartan...hence the lack of "uniform" that you mention. I'm guessing the different colored shirts are for different levels or programs, just as the BSA has a different colored shirt for Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, and Venture Scouts. Canada probably has some provisions for wear of the kilt by their scouts, given that the Canadian Military has kilted units and the country was formly part of the British Commonwealth.

[longhuntr74]

I was going to say that. However I will continue to wear my kilt with my BS uniform. Right or wrong I honeslty don't care. However I will disagree with you about advancing and learing to be a BS. If I remember correctly, all the requirements for advancing to 1st class is basic BS skills. You need to make it fun for the boys, not all work. Boys will drop out if it's all work, remember, scouting is fun with a purpose.

But we're going to have to agree do disagree. Later!

I'm the one that said I would probably wear a kilt with my Scout uniform in certain circumstances and I do believe in making the program both fun and educational. You and Mark were the two that were debating the importance of proper uniform all the time vs. being different to make things fun and exciting.

[Skinner]

Thats really cool. I have a olive green canvas kilt I wear with my scout uniform...

[BatlRatl]

Need I say more?

[AFS1970]

Having been a former Explorer Advisor (both in BSA and later in LfL) I wish I had known about the gray tartan then. Our distinctive uniform was Black & White, and it would have been interesting to wear the Kilt with that uniform.

Now as for BSA not having a provision for Kilts, that would seem to be something that needs to be rectified, whenever the regulations are updated. However if there is any tartan designated as the official one, make sure someone knowledgeable is in on the process. I am thinking that the one used by the webelos for their neckerchiefs might be a logical choice.

[O'Callaghan]

I suppose that with a thread this long it's inevitable that people keep wondering about things that have already been answered earlier (multiple times!).

The Scout Tartan is Maclaren, and all scouts are already entitled to wear it without further permission, not just Woodbadgers (a common fallacy), but not necessarily as uniform, depending on what country their unit is organised in and in some cases depending on whether they are of Scots descent. OTOH, only those leaders who have Woodbadge can wear a swatch of Maclaren on their scarf.

SA (British) rules permit kilts as uniform, but it depends on what part of the UK you are in and whether you are of Scots or Irish descent, as to whether you can wear a kilt and whether it can be saffron, your own clan/Maclaren, or any tartan of your choice (the latter only in Scotland). I posted the actual rules in full earlier, so please do a search on it.

I understand that the US cub scout tartan is a registered tartan, but AFAIK has never been intended to be worn anywhere but around a Webelos' neck!

[BKPowell]

Aye. I have to add my 2 cents here, too. I am and have been a scouter for most of my 60 years. Love the scouting organization and the adventure it afords. Always loved the uniform. Its even better with the kilt and all that goes with it. Somewhere, I have a picture of B-P in his kilted uniform. When I find it, i'll post it.

B K Powell
Eagle Scout

P.S. Perhaps, my avatar is kilted, you just can't see it.

[claidheamdanns]

Such a long thread, I did not read the whole thing, but I believe that the Boy Scout kilt is the MacLaren tartan.



Read what is stated on the Clan MacLaren website regarding this.

I wear MacLaren, when Tartan Day falls on a Scout Meeting night.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

However I will continue to wear my kilt with my BS uniform. Right or wrong I honeslty don't care.

My, but that sets a good example for the boys, doesn't it?

But you are right about one thing. Wearing your kilt in defiance of the uniform regulations of the Boy Scouts of America does turn it into-- and I quote-- a "BS" uniform.

[PGH]

Such a long thread, I did not read the whole thing, but I believe that the Boy Scout kilt is the MacLaren tartan.



Read what is stated on the Clan MacLaren website regarding this.

I wear MacLaren, when Tartan Day falls on a Scout Meeting night.

They're not Boy Scouts they are a Venturing Crew. There is NO provision for a Boy Scout or Scouter to wear a kilt as part of his "class A" (Field) uniform. If you do so as a leader you are sending the message that one of the methods of Scouting is a crock. If you wear a kilt with a T-shirt etc as "class B" (Activity) you're fine.