Time for a New York State tartan?

**Woodsheal** · 27th April 10, 05:31 AM

So, what's the next step? It seems to me: registering the tartan, then going after the legislators to introduce a bill or resolution, and Scottish societies to lobby in support of the effort....

**Brian K** · 27th April 10, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by Woodsheal

So, what's the next step? It seems to me: registering the tartan, then going after the legislators to introduce a bill or resolution, and Scottish societies to lobby in support of the effort....

I like your enthusiasm, Brian, but so far there have been 10 responses from members besides you and me and I've had one private message dealing with the issue of using the Scotweb tartan designer. Of the 10 posts supporting the idea only 7 were from New Yorkers. Is that enough support to proceed and are we sure mine is the design to go with?

Assuming this is the design to go with, the next step would be to try to drum up some support and get someone in the legislature to sponsor a bill. The Scottish register of tartans will not accept a registration for a tartan for an organization or political entity (or a clan or family, for that matter) unless the registrant is actually entitled to decide that said tartan represents them. If that were not the case anyone who decided to design and register a New York State tartan could do so and there would probably be a dozen of them.

I presume that if the legislature approves the tartan then only the Secretary of State of the State of New York would have the standing to actually register the design as the official NYS tartan.

One hurdle could be that members of the legislature might want to see some of the actual cloth woven -a request that would be reasonable - and I can't even afford a kilt, let alone having special order cloth woven.

If there's anyone here who's been involved with this process it'd be nice to hear from them

Regards,

Brian

**Woodsheal** · 27th April 10, 06:06 AM

I realize I'm overly enthusiatic, but then again I can see the whole process getting bogged down with endless debate, competing designs, etc., and ultimately going nowhere - which would be a shame. Hopefully more New Yorkers will weigh in with their opinions soon.
Separately from X-Marks, I think I'll email your design to all of my various celtic-oriented contacts, including the local Scottish Society, to see what kind of response it inspires....

**Brian K** · 27th April 10, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by Woodsheal

I realize I'm overly enthusiatic, but then again I can see the whole process getting bogged down with endless debate, competing designs, etc., and ultimately going nowhere - which would be a shame. Hopefully more New Yorkers will weigh in with their opinions soon.
Separately from X-Marks, I think I'll email your design to all of my various celtic-oriented contacts, including the local Scottish Society, to see what kind of response it inspires....

Brian,

I don't believe you're overly enthusiastic at all, in fact, I appreciate it. It's gratifying that you like my design that much - thank you!

I like the idea of drumming up support outside the forum and it sounds like you have some contacts. It would be helpful if we knew someone with political connections, but I'm sure we can discover somebody.

I'm still not convinced this is the final design to go with, but we have to start somewhere

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Regards,

Brian

**Kilted Jeeper** · 27th April 10, 07:20 AM

Give this thread a little more time to reach the masses...I know there are several board members of the Rochester Scottish Heritage Society on this forum.

**Brian K** · 27th April 10, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Kilted Jeeper

Give this thread a little more time to reach the masses...I know there are several board members of the Rochester Scottish Heritage Society on this forum.

Maybe you could pass the word? Nudge, nudge...wink, wink

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**lethearen** · 27th April 10, 08:02 AM

Are there any Scottish Societies in NY that hold regular meetings? If so maybe you could attend with a print out of your lovely design and appeal to them directly. Good work on it, by the way!

**Brian K** · 27th April 10, 08:08 AM

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**Brian K** · 27th April 10, 09:22 AM

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**Paul Henry** · 27th April 10, 09:37 AM

I thought by using the Scotweb designer, and by saving your design, that was enough to confirm the terms of using it and thereby accepting the terms and conditions, and all the restrictions that come with it.If you now use a different tartan designer with a previous design, I don't see that you wouldn't still fall under the conditions of Scotweb.In any case by posting it on here everyone knows that you have used the Scotweb software.
Please correct me if I am wrong