I'm wondering: would adoption of a state tartan require actual legislation passing both houses (Assembly and Senate), or would a simple resolution passing in one house suffice?
In either case, when the time comes I'll gladly get in touch with my state senator Tom Libous regarding this. We have a passing acquaintance, he's quite senior and wields some clout (though not as much as when his party was in the majority!)....
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
Thanks, Grant. I live about an hour South of the border on the East end of Lake Ontario and value the friends I have in Canada. I have been to Montreal a few times on vacation and have visited a few places in Ontario and have always felt at home there.
I'm not familiar with the Ontario tartan, but I do like the Maple leaf!
Colours include red and white with three shades of green and two of blue. The greens symbolise the forests and fields of Ontario and the blues depict the huge expanses of water in the province. The First Nations (Canadian Indians) of Ontario are represented by the red, and the sky over the province is depicted by white.
My thoughts are it must've been a cloudy day outside when the designer sat down with paper and pencil crayons.
Originally Posted by Kilted Abuser of Rubber Chickens
Colours include red and white with three shades of green and two of blue. The greens symbolise the forests and fields of Ontario and the blues depict the huge expanses of water in the province. The First Nations (Canadian Indians) of Ontario are represented by the red, and the sky over the province is depicted by white.
My thoughts are it must've been a cloudy day outside when the designer sat down with paper and pencil crayons.
While there are some differences [Red among them], Grant's photo shows that your design will make for a very nice kilt. As a life-long New Yorker, let me add my approval to that given by others. I say go for it!
"Before two notes of the theme were played, Colin knew it was Patrick Mor MacCrimmon's 'Lament for the Children'...Sad seven times--ah, Patrick MacCrimmon of the seven dead sons....'It's a hard tune, that', said old Angus. Hard on the piper; hard on them all; hard on the world." Butcher's Broom, by Neil Gunn, 1994 Walker & Co, NY, p. 397-8.
I'm wondering: would adoption of a state tartan require actual legislation passing both houses (Assembly and Senate), or would a simple resolution passing in one house suffice?
In either case, when the time comes I'll gladly get in touch with my state senator Tom Libous regarding this. We have a passing acquaintance, he's quite senior and wields some clout (though not as much as when his party was in the majority!)....
Well, Brian, I'm thinking that making something the official state something would require both houses to pass concurrent resolutions requiring the governor's signature. Just my gut feeling. I also think that most of these things, when properly approached, end up going through fairly easily. The problem is getting all your ducks in a row.
I'm wondering: would adoption of a state tartan require actual legislation passing both houses (Assembly and Senate), or would a simple resolution passing in one house suffice?
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Well, Brian, I'm thinking that making something the official state something would require both houses to pass concurrent resolutions requiring the governor's signature. Just my gut feeling. I also think that most of these things, when properly approached, end up going through fairly easily. The problem is getting all your ducks in a row.
Regards,
Brian
"Bills" must pass in both houses and go to the governor for signing into "law." "Resolutions" are measures that can pass in either house via a majority vote, and do not require the governor's signature.
I don't know where the adoption of a state tartan would fall. Measures that are "honorific" in nature generally pass via resolution, but an "official" something night require a bill. Hence, my question...!
Anyways, I've sent a feeler to my state senator (he's one of my Facebook friends!) telling him of our embryonic efforts along these lines, and inquiring as to the mechanics of adopting an Official State Something. I'll let you know what I find out....
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Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
"Bills" must pass in both houses and go to the governor for signing into "law." "Resolutions" are measures that can pass in either house via a majority vote, and do not require the governor's signature.
I don't know where the adoption of a state tartan would fall. Measures that are "honorific" in nature generally pass via resolution, but an "official" something night require a bill. Hence, my question...!
I understand where you're coming from, Brian, and I'm not sure what level of legislation would be necessary, but I think I know someone who might be able to help me find out some of this stuff. She's our county legislator and I think she has some contact with the assemblyman from a neighboring district. By chance, he belongs to the Lodge in a town 5 miles from me and I was the Sr. Deacon for his Third Degree. His father - also a brother - was our state senator for a long time and was one of W's ambassadors. At one time he was one of the most powerful men in Albany. Because of their last name I believe they might have Scottish ancestors. If Margaret can help me make a connection we might have powerful friends. If nothing else they could let us know what needs to be done.
Regards,
Brian
Last edited by Brian K; 28th April 10 at 08:05 PM.
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