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    For completeness, there are another few points that should be mentioned.

    'Flopping' the shield was very popular on Continental Europe to depict a marriage or alliance of some sort. One of the shields (usually the one on the left) would be turned to 'respect' the other. Rather like a picture of a loving couple looking deeply into each other's eyes. BUT. This idea never found favour with Heralds in either England or Scotland. Their opinion was then, and still is, that the 'turned' shield was totally different to the original and could in some instances be identical to someone else's shield.

    In this case, if the shield was flopped then it would no longer be the shield of Donald. It might be somebody else's or it might be nobody's, I really don't know, but the possibility is there.

    So, if it is not the shield of Donald, would your friend want the shield of some total stranger tattooed on his arm?

    Next point. This is a list of the Armigerous clans, that is to say, clans with no Chief or no known Chief. Where the Chiefly line has died out.

    Abercromby · Abernethy · Adair · Adam · Aikenhead · Ainslie · Aiton · Allardice · Anderson · Armstrong · Arnott · Auchinleck · Baillie · Baird · Balfour · Bannatyne · Baxter · Bell · Belshes · Bethune · Beveridge · Binning · Bissett · Blackadder · Blackstock · Blair · Blane · Blyth · Boswell · Brisbane · Buchanan · Butter · Byres · Cairns · Calder · Caldwell · Callender · Campbell of Breadalbane · Campbell of Cawdor · Carruthers · Cheyne · Chalmers · Clelland · Clephane · Cockburn · Congilton · Craig · Crawford · Crosbie · Cunningham · Dalmahoy · Dalrymple · Dalzell · Dennistoun · Don · Douglas · Duncan · Dunlop · Edmonstone · Fairlie · Falconer · Fenton · Fleming · Fletcher · Forrester · Fotheringham · Fullarton · Galbraith · Galloway · Garden · Gartshore · Ged · Gibsone · Gladstains · Glas · Glen · Glendinning · Gray · Gunn · Haliburton · Halkerston · Halket · Hepburn · Heron · Herries · Hogg · Hopkirk · Horsburgh · Houston · Hutton · Inglis · Innes · Kelly · Kinloch · Kinnaird · Kinnear · Kinninmont · Kirkcaldy · Kirkpatrick · Laing · Lammie · Langlands · Learmonth · Little · Logan · Logie · Lundin · Lyle · MacAulay · Macbrayne · MacDuff · MacEwen · MacFarlane · Macfie · Macgillivray · MacInnes · MacIver · Mackie · MacLellan · Macquarrie · Macqueen · Macrae · Masterton · Maule · Maxton · Maxwell · McCorquodale · McCulloch · McGhee · McKerrell · Meldrum · Melville · Mercer · Middleton · Moncur · Monteith · Monypenny · Mouat · Moubray · Mow · Muir · Murray of Atholl · Nairn · Nevoy · Newlands · Newton · Norvel · Ochterlony · Orrock · Paisley · Paterson · Pennycook · Pentland · Peter · Pitblado · Pitcairn · Pollock · Polwarth · Porterfield · Preston · Pringle · Purves · Rait · Ralston · Renton · Roberton · Rossie · Russel · Rutherford · Schaw · Seton · Skirving · Somerville · Spalding · Spottiswood · Stewart · Stewart of Appin · Strachan · Straiton · Strange · Sydserf · Symmers · Tailyour · Tait · Tennant · Troup · Turnbull · Tweedie · Udny · Vans · Walkinshaw · Wardlaw · Watson · Wauchope · Weir · Whitefoord · Whitelaw · Wishart · Wood · Young

    For many of these, there is an identifiable coat of arms, just no man to own them. Should someone wish to display any of these arms, there would not be anyone to complain.

    In one or two cases, the procedure has started to obtain a new Chief. The case closest to home is Clan Duncan. Our own Duncan of Sketraw is is going through the procedure to become the Chief of the Clan. The thing is, when this happens, he will use his own coat of arms, not the one from 700 years ago. So the original 700 year old arms will go unused.

    Last point. As Todd has pointed out, if a man wants to show his allegiance by getting a tattoo then the absolutely correct thing for him to do would be to use the Clansman's Badge in one colour. Then no one could take him to task.

    Regards

    Chas

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    Hi, BH – Chas has given you some good advice, as has Cajunscot, but there is more to say on the matter.
    I agree that it would be wrong to display anyone else’s coat of arms — in or outside your house, on your vehicle, your clothing or your skin.
    It would be acceptable to show a clan crest in monocolour — in that format, it is an acknowledgement of the clan chief as your chief.
    However there is a place for flipping an armorial device, and the right shoulder is an appropriate place for it.
    In the South African Army, each unit has a coat of arms (shield only) which is impressed in plastic on a pair of shoulder tabs (tabs that hang down the sleeve, that is, not along the shoulder). In some instances, enamelled versions are worn.
    Note I said a pair of shoulder tabs: if any charge in the device faces to the dexter side (the right-hand side as seen from behind the shield, so the left as seen from in front), it must face forward on the shoulders.
    So where the charge faces the dexter, that shield is worn on the left shoulder. The shield with a charge facing the sinister (left as seen from behind) is placed on the right shoulder, so that the charge is still facing forward.
    In many unit arms there is no left/right differentiation.
    But nowadays many unit arms are also displayed on the shoulder with the national flag. Again there is a left and right to that. The flag flies from the hoist to the fly, and on the left shoulder the fly is on the left (or dexter) side. But on the badge made for the right shoulder, the fly is on the right side, because the fly is on the left (sinister).
    So the soldier who puts his shoulder tabs must make sure that the black and yellow part of the flag (the fly of the South African flag) faces the front, and the point of the green pall faces the rear.
    The same principle applies to any other device worn on the right shoulder, be it a flag, a shield of arms or a crest.
    If you wear the US flag on the right shoulder, the stars are on the front side, and the stripes are on the rear.
    If you wear it any other way, it is back to front.
    The crest that BH wants to use would need to be redrawn, because it would be necessary for the correct hand (the right hand) to be shown, but with the cross facing forward (the viewer would need to see the back of the grieve, or metal “glove”).
    When knights wore their arms on their surcoats, this principle applied there, too.
    Where a lion faces to the dexter, he must face to the dexter on both front and back. So he faces the right shoulder on the front of the surcoat, and he still faces the right shoulder on the back – that is, he has been flipped around to face the correct way.
    Regards,
    Mike
    The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_Oettle View Post
    When knights wore their arms on their surcoats, this principle applied there, too.
    Where a lion faces to the dexter, he must face to the dexter on both front and back. So he faces the right shoulder on the front of the surcoat, and he still faces the right shoulder on the back – that is, he has been flipped around to face the correct way.
    Regards,
    Mike
    Sorry Mike. I've got to disagree. This did not happen in UK usage.

    This is the tabard of a Pursuivant of the College of Heralds:



    Note that on both arm pieces the CoA faces the viewer correctly, that is to say in accordance with the blazon, not flipped. Note also in the lower right we can see what is the back of the tabard. Again the Arms are in accordance with the blazon and not flipped.

    It might have happened in Continental usage, but not in the UK and not sanctioned by either Garter or Lord Lyon.

    Regards

    Chas

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