The Crow nation

[dfmacliam]

And my grandmother was a Brant, on my fathers side, which is where my Mohawk blood comes from.

[BoldHighlander]

The Johnsons were Irish, not Scottish (Sir William was born in Co. Meath) but they certainly had ties to a number of Highlanders that lived on their estate. You are quite right; they certainly do not get the recognition they deserve, or their protege, Joseph Brant.

We have a recent biography of Sir William, White Savage: William Johnson and the Invention of America by Fintan O'Toole, in our library; I need to read it sometime.

I seem to remember a made-for-tv movie about Joseph Brant that had Pierce Brosnan playing Sir William.

T.

That would be 'The Broken Chain' with Wes Studi (Uncas in Last of the Mohicans) as Brant. The film wasn't bad, however my only real complaint was they didn't spend enough time on the Rev War period & the 'Monster Brant', and too much on the whole Law Giver visions thing.

Having one time "served" in the role as adjutant for the recreated Brant's Volunteers (Brigade of the American Revolution), I have a deep interest in the Johnson's & Brant.

I'm glad someone brought in William and John Johnson, father and son. They were a couple of remarkable Scots Irish men who lived sort of baronial Northern Irish style lives right in amongst the Iroquois and forged a major alliance between them the Crown before the Revolution- and were probably the deciding factor in why those Iroquois fought on the side of the British. The Johnsons would probably be as famous today as Boone and Crockett are if they hadn't fought on the losing side. John in particular was quite a vindictive fighter on the British side, according to what I've been told; even Canadian Loyalist descendants tend not to like him very much.

If you have a great interest in Sir John Johnson & his activities in the war, I'd recommend two books written by one of the top Canadian historians on the Loyalists (as well as founder & past commander of the recreated KRR NY) Gavin Watt.
They are Rebellion in the Mohawk Valley: The St. Leger Expedition of 1777,
and The Burning of the Valleys: Daring Raids from Canada against the New York frontier in the fall of 1780.
Both very well written & researched (& not dry history, if you know what I mean?). Both books also discuss the Native Allies & their roles including Brant, Old Smoke & Cornplanter (of the Seneca).

And my grandmother was a Brant, on my fathers side, which is where my Mohawk blood comes from.

Ah-ha! Then your kinsmen ran the war trail with mine!

I have Brandt blood (a Dutch New York family). My cousin, Andrew Brandt, was a nephew of Colonel John Butler (founder & commander of the Loyalist Corps Butler's Rangers), and commanded one of the more active companies of the Rangers (Brandt's Co'y raided Wheeling, West VA in 1782 the last major action of the ranger corps of the war).

Brandt was also an officer in the Indian Dept, and would've known Brant

[Lallans]

Boldhighlander, you are clearly revealed as a closet Canadian! Thanks for the book recommendations, which I will hopefully still have to hand after I retire, or sooner!

And thanks also to Cajunscot for mentioning the 'White Savage' book about Sir William Johnson/MacShane.

[BoldHighlander]

Boldhighlander, you are clearly revealed as a closet Canadian! Thanks for the book recommendations, which I will hopefully still have to hand after I retire, or sooner!

Hmmmm.....Well, one of my first puppy loves (age 13) was from Victoria B.C. (the other a little later was a Nez Perce...keeping to the Native theme of the thread ), another gal I dated in late teens was from Langley B.C.. My wife is a Texan/Canadian (her mum is originally from Ontario), as noted I had a cousin in Butler's Rangers (plus three more in the grenadier co'y of the Queen's Rangers), and a deep respect for the Canadian kilted regiments. Yeah, there might be something to that statement!

[ThistleDown]

Hmmmm.....Well, one of my first puppy loves (age 13) was from Victoria B.C. (the other a little later was a Nez Perce...keeping to the Native theme of the thread ), another gal I dated in late teens was from Langley B.C.. My wife is a Texan/Canadian (her mum is originally from Ontario), as noted I had a cousin in Butler's Rangers (plus three more in the grenadier co'y of the Queen's Rangers), and a deep respect for the Canadian kilted regiments. Yeah, there might be something to that statement!

Come "home" anytime, Terry, you will be welcomed with open arms. Hmmmm, yes, but you will have to leave your arms behind

[BoldHighlander]

Come "home" anytime, Terry, you will be welcomed with open arms. Hmmmm, yes, but you will have to leave your arms behind

[Lallans]

Come "home" anytime, Terry, you will be welcomed with open arms. Hmmmm, yes, but you will have to leave your arms behind

Well perhaps not "behind", but you will have to register the beezlebub out of them, and WILL have to give up anything that appears on a list essentially made up of a few things that have no rhyme or reason but look scary and military. And then Welcome To Canada!