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    Quote Originally Posted by BoldHighlander View Post
    Horrible stuff, that!
    The Government of Canada recently apologized to the First Nations people for the whole Residential Schools thing (as we call it). The First Nations in turn are doing a number of ceremonies where they forgive the rest of Canada. Which I'm not quite sure is fair since I know the older folks in my family, living and dead, thought that the whole Schools thing of the 20th century was a ghastly crime against humanity. It was a Big Government and Big Churches thing and nobody else had any input or say-so.

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    Not sure of a book to point to as a source on this idea, but I think cultures that are even in conflict for long periods of time have effects on each other and neither culture comes out the same afterward. First Peoples' had significant parts in forming North American cultures of today. For example, the Dine' have incorporated horses into their symbolic cultural heritage, and Taco Bell has enchiladas etc. It is all our, "North Americans," heritage in my view, including the influences of the Scots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugbear View Post
    Not sure of a book to point to as a source on this idea, but I think cultures that are even in conflict for long periods of time have effects on each other and neither culture comes out the same afterward. First Peoples' had significant parts in forming North American cultures of today. For example, the Dine' have incorporated horses into their symbolic cultural heritage, and Taco Bell has enchiladas etc. It is all our, "North Americans," heritage in my view, including the influences of the Scots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugbear View Post
    Not sure of a book to point to as a source on this idea, but I think cultures that are even in conflict for long periods of time have effects on each other and neither culture comes out the same afterward. First Peoples' had significant parts in forming North American cultures of today. For example, the Dine' have incorporated horses into their symbolic cultural heritage, and Taco Bell has enchiladas etc. It is all our, "North Americans," heritage in my view, including the influences of the Scots.
    Ted,

    This is the basic premise of Calloway's New Worlds for All.

    T.

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    Speaking for myself, I've yet to meet a cuisine I didn't like
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunscot View Post
    Ted,

    This is the basic premise of Calloway's New Worlds for All.

    T.

    Thanks, cajunscot, I will look for that book. Calloway does seem to have that approach in the couple of his books I am reading right now.
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    Just to be fair, here's a book that probably influenced me in thinking that: The Pueblo Revolt and the Mythology of Conquest: An Indigenous Archaeology of Contact,
    by Michael V. Wilcox; U of California P, 2009.
    I'm sure there's other books, unfortunately, I have to be cautious of the history I grew up being taught for a number of reasons...
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    Colin Macbean wrote: “The British also banned slavery long before them That being said the British started it all in the first place

    Actually, it was the Portuguese who were the great sinners with regard to slavery. They found it in existence in Africa and Asia, but made it a lot worse by applying Roman law on slavery to that status.
    The Spanish did likewise in the Americas, and when the Dutch and the British supplanted the Portuguese from many of their African and Oriental possessions, they took over the existing slave system.

    The experience of the Canadian First Nations in boarding schools was much the same as that of the Australian Aborigines in the first half of the 20th century.
    And even here in South Africa there has been a blending of cultures – with some extraordinary outcomes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoldHighlander View Post


    Hmmmm.....Well, one of my first puppy loves (age 13) was from Victoria B.C. (the other a little later was a Nez Perce...keeping to the Native theme of the thread ), another gal I dated in late teens was from Langley B.C.. My wife is a Texan/Canadian (her mum is originally from Ontario), as noted I had a cousin in Butler's Rangers (plus three more in the grenadier co'y of the Queen's Rangers), and a deep respect for the Canadian kilted regiments. Yeah, there might be something to that statement!
    Come "home" anytime, Terry, you will be welcomed with open arms. Hmmmm, yes, but you will have to leave your arms behind

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    ......unfortunately, I have to be cautious of the history I grew up being taught for a number of reasons...
    Absolutely. Much is the history I had to unlearn after I began to do real research and study contemporary records.

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