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                                                10th August 10, 05:17 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Sir,
 Fort Drum?  Was just up there last week in Ogdensurg visiting wife's home town and family.  Been a bit warm up there for most of the time I was there, in the 80's, positively a major heat wave up there even for the summer.
 
 Jim
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                10th August 10, 05:32 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			Yeah...no joke!
		
			
				
					
	We actually had a 5 day stretch where it was above 90 every day....talk about sweltering...I was dying!!  LOL
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Drac   Sir,
 Fort Drum?  Was just up there last week in Ogdensurg visiting wife's home town and family.  Been a bit warm up there for most of the time I was there, in the 80's, positively a major heat wave up there even for the summer.
 
 Jim
 "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." -- Thomas Paine
 Scottish-American Military Society Post 1921
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                10th August 10, 06:56 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					i agree "DoD sets forth the policy for issuing and wear of the medal" 
 Public  Law 107-314 legislated the creation of a new medal to recognize  military service in the Republic of Korea and the surrounding waters.    Members  of the armed forces authorized the KDSM must have served in support of  the defense of the Republic of Korea. The area of eligibility  encompasses all land area of the Republic of Korea, and the contiguous  water out to 12 nautical miles, and all air spaces above the land and  water areas.
 HOWEVER -the law already says who gets it and no other requirements accept those listed need be complete.
 
 From the Defense department
 Officials  say the medal should be available at the beginning of June. Those   currently on active duty will receive the medal via their units. Those  retired  or out of the service may apply through contacting their former  service  branches.
 
 I have already applied to get it issued because i do not want to buy it. however there are other awards - IE a MUC which was issued to my unit after i left but covered the time I was with them. I have no idea if that was added to my dd-214.. I do know that NAVMC orders shows me as eligible and I wear it-- or actually I wear a bronze star because it was a second award
 
 At the end of the day -  I only wear those ribbons/medals which I am authorized (by law/congress) to wear and I know that nobody is going to ask to see my paperwork.
 
 This has been an interesting discussion and required some looking on my part but I am still of the mind set that IF you are retired/discharged and a medal was issued after you got out... If you qualify WEAR IT...
 
 But what do I know, I am just a retired service member with 21 years of service of service
 
 
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                10th August 10, 07:00 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Here are some QnA about the medalQuestions and Answers
 
 Question 1:   Are ROTC Cadets eligible for the KDSM?
 Answer 1:  Yes, ROTC Cadets who go TDY to Korea on one of the various  ROTC programs are entitled to the KDSM provided they meet the basic  criteria.
 
 Question 2:  Do I have to take off my OSR if I am now eligible for the KDSM?
 Answer 2:  Negative, Soldiers are authorized to receive the OSR for  completion of their tours in the area and authorized to receive the KDSM  for serving in Korea.
 
 Question 3:  I was stationed in Japan and went to Korea to complete PLDC.  Do I qualify for award of the KDSM?
 Answer 3:  Negative.  The DoD guidance only authorizes the KDSM to be  awarded to service members who are assigned, attached, or mobilized to  the area.  Soldiers can also qualify if they were in Korea for an  exercise or operation.
 
 Question 4:  Can I get multiple awards of the KDSM?
 Answer 4:  No, only one award of the KDSM is authorized for any  individual.  Multiple awards are not authorized.  No appurtenances will  be placed on the KDSM to denote multiple awards.
 
 Question 5:  How do I get my records updated with the KDSM?
 Answer 5:  Military personnel divisions/Brigade S1s (whomever is the  records custodian) will update personnel qualification records of  qualified Soldiers who meet the medal criteria.
 
 Question 6:  Do I get a certificate and orders for the KDSM?
 Answer 6:  Negative.  The KDSM is categorized as a service award, as  such permanent orders are not required.  Certificates also do not  accompany award of the KDSM.
 
 Question 7:  Do veterans use a Standard Form 180 to request the KDSM?
 Answer 7:  Please refer all veteran requests who have left service prior  to 2002 to the National Personnel Records Center (NPRC), the National  Archives (NARA) at www.archives.gov.
 
 Question 8:  My Brigade Commander has been to Korea several times during  his career for various exercises.  His time of service in Korea has  been more that 60 days nonconsecutive.  Without documentation for all of  these exercises he has been on how can I get the KDSM awarded to him?
 Answer 8:  Documentation proving your Commander actually served is  imperative in authorizing the KDSM.  Examples would be TDY orders, LES,  any form of documentation showing he was in Korea for the required  amount of time.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                10th August 10, 08:09 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					To All...
 For Navy & Marine Corps Personnel Questions, go to this web site for phone numbers and address of the folks in the know... (http://www.archives.gov/veterans/mil...tion-navy.html).
 
 Also All Service Members should go to this site about Awards and Medals regarding the New Cold War Recognition Certificate if you served between Sept 1942 to Dec 1991.
 
 Later Folks...
 
 Dixiedog
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                10th August 10, 09:01 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Hey Folks...
 Found another web site for ALL Service Members to check out for any questions regarding Uniform Regs and Awards and Medals.  Everyout with questions should hit this link... (http://www.military.com/benefits/res...rms-and-awards).
 
 Please Remember This...   Awards Verification:
 If you knowingly wear an award that you do not rate you can be prosecuted!!!
 
 Have ALL your Awards and Medals Eligiblity Verified and Documented before you wear ANY Awards or Medals especially those that were not included on any of your DD-214's during your Service and or on your Discharge DD-214.  Contact the Awards Dept of your Service at the Addresses noted in the following link address... (http://www.military.com/benefits/res...ls-decorations).
 
 Later Y'all...
 
 Dixiedog
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                13th August 10, 11:49 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I spoke today with a Department of Defense Attorney (who is a Retired JAG Officer)
 Here is the bottom line - you would only be persecuted if you were wearing an award to which you were not entitled.
 
 It is not a crime to wear a medal to which you are entitled but that has not yet been added to your records.
 
 Adding it to your records does not make you entitled. You are entitled to an award based on criteria set up by the issuing authority. In this case Congress.
 
 The Issuing authority says you must have served a certain amount of time between certain dates, NOTHING in the LAW says you have to have it entered in your records or that you have to have it issued to you by any other authority.
 
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
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