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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    You might want to read this article about clerical attire for black tie events.
    http://www.blacktieguide.com/Supplemental/Clerical.htm

    Just one man's opinion, but it's a good starting point.

    I'd wear the black Argyle jacket with with a white French cuff shirt, and this style waistcoat with my Roman collar.

    I believe this style is called a gilet. Many of the priests in my diocese wear them and they look quite nice.

    Matt beat me to it recommending the sound advice from the Black-Tie guide.
    Since I don't have the luxury of being an expert on everything, I have often used blacktieguide.com as a guide in developing my personal formal dress style.
    If it were me, I would go with this same look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zardoz View Post
    Matt beat me to it recommending the sound advice from the Black-Tie guide, I would go with this same look.
    As useful as the Black Tie guide may be, it's comments on clerical attire are limited to the mode of dress of the Roman Catholic clergy. That said, the advice give may be of little or no value to Anglicans, Lutherans, or the clergy of other denominations.
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    Greetings All,

    Thank you all for your assistance.

    The Mrs. and I are joining the Order of St. Lazarus in Canada. The cost of my cassock (RC style) with the Order's trim and cincture, my mozetta and the Mrs. Mantle are already dipping into the saving quite a lot! I am Rev. and plan to attend as a Rev. because that is what I am and I will be invested as a clergyman.

    The Very Rev. Allan is Church of England? I am a Ev. Lutheran so leaning more towards the RC side.

    I have been warned there will be many in kilts at the event so I better know my stuff. You can understand why I want to get this right.

    In the end I have little left to spend on new items for the event, so I am still hoping to go with clergy kilt?

    Keep the options coming I appreciate it!

    Robert

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Vicar View Post
    The Very Rev. Allan is Church of England?
    I would be interested in the answer to this question myself. Clan Chattan was historically Scottish Episcopalean, though individuals would probably have altered there allegiance in years since the early 1700s. As I understand it from Wikipedia, this church, though Anglican and recognizing the Archbishop of Canterbury, sees itself as continuous with the ancient Celtic Church of Ninian and Columba before it realilgned with Rome. The first American Episcopalean bishop after the War of Independence was ordained by the Scottish Episcopal bishops, not the English. The Wikipedia article makes interesting reading for those interested in the Jacobite Rebellion, the American Episcopal Church, or the Clan Chattan Confederation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Episcopal_Church
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    Well, Vicar, for my tuppence worth I would recommend that you stay with the kilt and the seasonal flashes (a brilliant idea in my eyes).
    I don’t see that black socks would be entirely out of place, although blue, or blue and black, might go better with the tartan.
    To my mind the clerical collar goes hand in hand with the breeches (don’t know how that garb was ever thought appropriate for the clergy to wear!).
    I would suggest a white shirt with a bow tie, or perhaps a jabot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Vicar View Post
    Greetings All,

    The Very Rev. Allan is Church of England? I am a Ev. Lutheran so leaning more towards the RC side.Robert

    Dochgarroch is a priest in the Scottish Episcopal Church. He is (or rather was ) Provost of the Cathedral Church of St. John, in Oban.

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    As discussed elsewhere...

    Vicar, I do hope you won't let the matter of a hundred dollars or so get in the way of looking truly great. Those STM diced hose come in at $110 US and I suspect they are the sort of thing that would set you apart from the lesser kilted creatures there and earn their undying admiration for a gent who can straddle the line between sober dignity and highland elegance.

    As for the jabot, they can easily be made at little expense, if you can't afford Mrs Matt's handiwork.

    Please understand, the following is not meant to reflect on you or any other XMarks member, but is just good sound McGiver lore:


    A while back we discussed how one could make an impromptu jabot from almost any frilly undergarment. This is very good to know should one be discovered by one's wife in possession of an otherwise unfamiliar item of such description. A quick thinking lad will twist the article slightly and attach it to his collar- evidence, darling? why No, this is my new jabot.
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    No offence taken at all. : )

    I am most thankful for all the input that the X Marker's community is willing to put into my situation.

    If a suggestion works with the kilt that is great! I am just a bit worried about having to buy an entire different outfit on my salary! : o

    Any suggestion that helps put me into a proper look with what I have or what I can get only makes life a little bit easier.

    Thanks again for the support.

    Blk and Blue hose are not easy to find?

    Robert

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacLowlife View Post
    ... Please understand, the following is not meant to reflect on you or any other XMarks member, but is just good sound McGiver lore:


    A while back we discussed how one could make an impromptu jabot from almost any frilly undergarment. This is very good to know should one be discovered by one's wife in possession of an otherwise unfamiliar item of such description. A quick thinking lad will twist the article slightly and attach it to his collar- evidence, darling? why No, this is my new jabot.
    I no longer believe in the black tie jabot, MacLowlife. I've been cured.
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    Concering Investitures and Gala Evenings

    Quote Originally Posted by The Vicar View Post
    Greetings All,

    Thank you all for your assistance.

    The Mrs. and I are joining the Order of St. Lazarus in Canada. The cost of my cassock (RC style) with the Order's trim and cincture, my mozetta and the Mrs. Mantle are already dipping into the saving quite a lot! I am Rev. and plan to attend as a Rev. because that is what I am and I will be invested as a clergyman.

    The Very Rev. Allan is Church of England? I am a Ev. Lutheran so leaning more towards the RC side.

    I have been warned there will be many in kilts at the event so I better know my stuff. You can understand why I want to get this right.

    In the end I have little left to spend on new items for the event, so I am still hoping to go with clergy kilt?

    Keep the options coming I appreciate it!

    Robert
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