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13th August 10, 12:50 PM
#21
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Yes I can see where you are coming from and in many ways you are right. Indeed most Scots(those that have a kilt) have one in their clan tartan and that will be it. I think that we have the advantage of knowing what colours work(not necessarily match) with "our" particular tartan so there must be some subconscious colour arranging going on. We also have the advantage, sometimes, of family input too.The end result is that we have an in depth knowledge of knowing what we can get away with and what we can't.
Even today when I see some one wearing the kilt at an event I find myself saying to myself, humm yes that outfit works, or, humm those such and such don't quite work. I think we kilt wearing Scots are lucky to be able to see before our very eyes all sorts of colour combinations and that is a natural advantage for us. However the Internet is helping to do the same thing, although I don't think I have ever spent a second discussing the finer points of a tie, hose, shoes, shirt, tartan hue before, like we do here!
Quite right Jock-I concur!
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13th August 10, 12:51 PM
#22
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Yes indeed you are more "Scottish" than you probably know, as the majority(by far) don't own a kilt!
Actually I can just go to the cupboard and grab anything! My shirts. apart from a couple that live elswhere, are universal. By that I mean I can wear the shirts with my shooting gear, farming gear, town gear, every day non kilted gear AND WITH THE KILT! My kilt hose goes with my shooting and fishing gear too, so do my shoes. My ties are universal too, so yes absolutely, I could go to my wardrobe with my eyes shut and come out fully dressed in kilt day attire feeling quite happy with what I am wearing.
Another good thought for shirts for the kilt, as JD suggests, is the SMALL blue Gingham check, as is the SMALL blue Houndstooth.
My shooting suit. Same shirt, same tie, same shoes, same hose, same watch and chain, same cromach, BUT not the same bonnet!

I LOVE IT!!!! That's what I tend to strive for whilst wearing my Highland day attire-a smart, simple, fine country look! This is when the flat cap is appropriate-unlike wearing such headgear with the kilt!
I am on the left-my personal piper is on the right...I wish! LOL, no he is a good friend of mine and a superb piper.
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16th August 10, 09:04 AM
#23
 Originally Posted by creagdhubh
I am on the left-my personal piper is on the right...I wish! LOL, no he is a good friend of mine and a superb piper.

I don't intend to be provocative, but I find Creagdhubh's outfit above to have the hallmarks of "matching". (or "color coordination" as I think of it)
The jacket and hose match, and coordinate with a color in the kilt, as do the flashes and tie, there are basically two, maybe three colorways at work there. I'm not picking on Kyle personally and I apologize for using his photo as an example, but while I personally find the outfit quite well put together, I feel it's overall color coordinated look is a better example of the "matching" syndrome than the "random" style lately espoused here as I understand them.
Order of the Dandelion, The Houston Area Kilt Society, Bald Rabble in Kilts, Kilted Texas Rabble Rousers, The Flatcap Confederation, Kilted Playtron Group.
"If you’re going to talk the talk, you’ve got to walk the walk"
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16th August 10, 09:21 AM
#24
Zardoz.
Ok we view that picture of Mr "X" for educational purposes only. In many ways there are only so many colour combinations you can have, so there is a good chance that if we look hard enough we can often find something that matches and yes you are quite right, the look in the picture does appear to "match " pretty well . So what I think those of us from the non matching school of thought are trying to say is, that our attire is not put together with conscious thought and if anything matches, it is down to luck. As opposed to this agonising over, what goes with this or that, from the "Matching School" of thought.
Perhaps there ought to be a third group, the "conscious effort that everything must not match" school of thought too? But then, that would be just as contrived as the "Matching School", in my view.
Last edited by Jock Scot; 16th August 10 at 11:27 AM.
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16th August 10, 12:09 PM
#25
Hmmm...
It seems that the thing that makes one look distinctly "un-Scottish" isn't so much the matching (in the literal sense) as it is the obvious thought and effort that goes into dressing. Whether it takes a lot of thought and effort doesn't really matter, what matters is that it looks effortless.
I have always been interested in how people dress, not just Scottish dress, and while this isn't a photo of someone in a kilt, I felt I had to share it for the mixed patterns and effortlessness of it:

I never thought that seeing three different tartan patterns together could work so well.
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18th August 10, 05:23 AM
#26
 Originally Posted by Cygnus
Hmmm...
It seems that the thing that makes one look distinctly "un-Scottish" isn't so much the matching (in the literal sense) as it is the obvious thought and effort that goes into dressing. Whether it takes a lot of thought and effort doesn't really matter, what matters is that it looks effortless.
I have always been interested in how people dress, not just Scottish dress, and while this isn't a photo of someone in a kilt, I felt I had to share it for the mixed patterns and effortlessness of it:
I never thought that seeing three different tartan patterns together could work so well.
What a super picture of a chap who is apparently completely at ease with the world.
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18th August 10, 01:26 PM
#27
I should mention that for American golfers, matching on the links is supposed to be a no-no. This rule of thumb seems to get violated a lot out of bad habit.
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18th August 10, 02:38 PM
#28
 Originally Posted by Zardoz
I don't intend to be provocative, but I find Creagdhubh's outfit above to have the hallmarks of "matching". (or "color coordination" as I think of it)
The jacket and hose match, and coordinate with a color in the kilt, as do the flashes and tie, there are basically two, maybe three colorways at work there. I'm not picking on Kyle personally and I apologize for using his photo as an example, but while I personally find the outfit quite well put together, I feel it's overall color coordinated look is a better example of the "matching" syndrome than the "random" style lately espoused here as I understand them.
Right on brother.
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18th August 10, 04:55 PM
#29
Not Scottish, but I do like how the Duke dresses in this movie.
Gillmore of Clan Morrison
"Long Live the Long Shirts!"- Ryan Ross
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19th August 10, 05:07 AM
#30
I think I'm starting to get the argument here. Matching makes you look like you went out and bought everything together at once to play dress up.
As opposed to the other school which is dress well and include your kilt. This way the kilt seems natural since it isn't spotlighted and framed by matching items.
Then again what do I know I'm still in the very Scottish unkilted group for now.
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