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                                                12th October 10, 10:31 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			79th New York (Highlanders)
		
			
				
					***Original 79th Kilt and Sporran images added to thread on post #12***
 I finally have some good pictures of pre/early civil war 79th Militia uniforms! (Only time the Scottish uniforms were worn) These impressions are from the Spring of 1861 just as the 79th was getting ready to leave the city and go to Washington City (D.C.) Enjoy!
 
 Pvt. Scott and Cpl. McKnight (Real names)
 
  
 
  
 
  
 Original 1850 Militia sword. This model can be seen in original pre war 79th NY images.
 
  
 New Yorkers of 1861! 5th New York, 79th New York, and 7th New York
 
   
				
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                                                13th October 10, 05:08 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					What can you tell about the jacket of the man on the Right in the last photo?  I have my great-uncle's jacket, belt, cartridge box and bayonet scabbard from the NY 7th Reg around 1910.  It looks identical.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                13th October 10, 07:32 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Excellent stuff Rachel! You might want to ask the Mods to move this thread to Historical Highland Attire, though.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                13th October 10, 08:04 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	I'm not Rachel, but I can provide a little information, thanks to a WWI-era reenactment unit that portrays the 7th:
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by tulloch   What can you tell about the jacket of the man on the Right in the last photo?  I have my great-uncle's jacket, belt, cartridge box and bayonet scabbard from the NY 7th Reg around 1910.  It looks identical. 
 http://www.oryansroughnecks.org/uniforms_7.html
 
 You might also look at some of the historic photos posted on Andrew Cusack's blog:
 
 http://www.andrewcusack.com/?s=7th+New+York
 
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                                                13th October 10, 08:54 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Alright! Good idea, I didn't even thought about Historical attire. Thank you  ith: 
 Wonderful link T! The blog has nice pictures of "real" 7th New Yorkers taken in the 1950s.
 
 The uniform is the late 1850s pattern though the 7th New York National Guards uniform changed little from the 1820s to well into the 1970s. The shako pattern changed but the tail coat, cross belts and unit insignia was pretty constant.
 
 To bring this all around, 2 companies of the 7th marched with the 79th as their honor guard when the Highlanders returned from war in 1864. Imagine 2 companies of these fine 7th New yorkers in tail coats and cross belts escorting the 120 79th veterans. The 79th had worn out federal uniforms and only new bonnets issued by the New York Caledonian Club before entering New York to show their unit identity.
 
 
 Privates William H. Barrett and Robert Field, 7th New York 1861
 
  
 My brother Charles wearing the the complete uniform reproduction compared to Berrett and Field.
 
  
 
 Also, heres another 79th soldier. Cpl. Nelson while posing for an actual 1860s camera at a recent event.
 
   
				
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                                                14th October 10, 04:49 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Thank you for posting!!  I was unaware that Scottish uniforms were worn by US soldiers and better, NY soldiers.  Will have to visit the capital again and see if they have any information in their flag / Militia display.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by 79thReproductions   I finally have some good pictures of pre/early civil war 79th Militia uniforms! (Only time the Scottish uniforms were worn) These impressions are from the Spring of 1861 just as the 79th was getting ready to leave the city and go to Washington City (D.C.) Enjoy! 
 BTW - what was the tartan that they used?  Don't remember seeing that noted.
 
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                                                14th October 10, 05:37 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Information:
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by BLHS209   Thank you for posting!!  I was unaware that Scottish uniforms were worn by US soldiers and better, NY soldiers.  Will have to visit the capital again and see if they have any information in their flag / Militia display.
 BTW - what was the tartan that they used?  Don't remember seeing that noted.
 
 Chris Shepherd
 
 http://dmna.state.ny.us/historic/reg...9thInfMain.htm
 
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                                                14th October 10, 03:57 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	So, should I guess that they "used" the Cameron tartan?  "May 4, 1864, Col. Samuel McK. Elliott received authority to recruit a regiment, the Cameron Highlanders"
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by BLHS209   BTW - what was the tartan that they used?  Don't remember seeing that noted.
 Chris Shepherd
 
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                                                14th October 10, 04:49 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					That is really amazing.  Thanks, Todd, for the links.  Funny but I always thought that was NY on the cartridge box but it is NG!  My great uncle's items are identical to those shown.  I used the cartridge box gently a few times.
 By the way, my great uncle was Wynn Van Schaick and was in Company K around 1910.
 
				
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                                                14th October 10, 05:04 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	"NG" as in "National Guard", which comes from the visit of the Marquis de Lafayette in 1825, when the precursor to the 7th adopted the name in honor of the Garde Nationale de Paris:
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by tulloch   That is really amazing.  Thanks, Todd, for the links.  Funny but I always thought that was NY on the cartridge box but it is NG!  My great uncle's items are identical to those shown.  I used the cartridge box gently a few times.
 By the way, my great uncle was Wynn Van Schaick and was in Company K around 1910.
 
 http://www.ng.mil/resources/photo_ga...lafayette.html
 
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