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                                                17th October 10, 09:13 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	You look very nicely turned out.  Well done.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Drac   The tie was ok but will take a bit more work to get even.  I commend you for jettisoning the white hose and fly plaid. 
 Don't worry too much about getting your tie perfect.  A slight jaunty mussiness is the hallmark of a hand-tied bow tie - it will never have the perfect proportion of a pre-tied one, and it isn't meant to.  Over time, you'll develop your own particular way of tying and wearing it.  I think it came out quite well.
 
 The only advice I would add for next year is, as the budget allows, pick up a nice evening sporran.  Also, just FYI, if you're interested, you don't have to wear a wing-collar shirt if you don't want to - all my formal shirts (both of them - I don't wear black tie /that/ often
  ) have a lay down collar, and I just find it more comfortable. "To the make of a piper go seven years of his own learning, and seven generations before. At the end of his seven years one born to it will stand at the start of knowledge, and leaning a fond ear to the drone he may have parley with old folks of old affairs." - Neil Munro
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                18th October 10, 04:37 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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				Glen McGuire
 A Life Lived in Fear,  Is a Life Half Lived.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                18th October 10, 05:07 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	*** for both of these comments.  People can TELL it's a real tie because it isn't perfect.  I think you wore it well.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by JerseyLawyer   ... 
Don't worry too much about getting your tie perfect.  A slight jaunty mussiness is the hallmark of a hand-tied bow tie - it will never have the perfect proportion of a pre-tied one, and it isn't meant to.  Over time, you'll develop your own particular way of tying and wearing it.  I think it came out quite well. 
 
...Also, just FYI, if you're interested, you don't have to wear a wing-collar shirt if you don't want to - all my formal shirts (both of them - I don't wear black tie /that/ often    ) have a lay down collar, and I just find it more comfortable. 
 I like a lay down collar as well. It's a clean, classic look, perhaps not QUITE as 'dressed' looking as a wing collar, but I've never personally liked wearing wing collars.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                18th October 10, 05:39 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Thanks all, but who couldn't look good next to Amy? 
 
 
	Thanks, I don't mind losing the white hose but don't discount the fly plaid
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by JerseyLawyer   You look very nicely turned out.  Well done.     I commend you for jettisoning the white hose and fly plaid.  I do like them.  It was just a bit too much for the Ball.  St Andrews dinner now... 
 
 
	Thanks again.  I will work on it.  After years of having to get the tie perfect in uniform there are some things I get a bit anal about.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by JerseyLawyer   Don't worry too much about getting your tie perfect.  A slight jaunty mussiness is the hallmark of a hand-tied bow tie - it will never have the perfect proportion of a pre-tied one, and it isn't meant to.  Over time, you'll develop your own particular way of tying and wearing it.  I think it came out quite well. 
 
 
	The book I've been studing on how a gentleman dresses (and acts) it recommends a straight collar for those (like me) who have fat faces.  The one I had didn't accept studs and I didn't have the time to get a new one.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by JerseyLawyer   The only advice I would add for next year is, as the budget allows, pick up a nice evening sporran.  Also, just FYI, if you're interested, you don't have to wear a wing-collar shirt if you don't want to - all my formal shirts (both of them - I don't wear black tie /that/ often    ) have a lay down collar, and I just find it more comfortable. 
 This will probably be the last Navy Ball we go to in this area.  It has gotten less fun over the years.  Had some really rude people this year.  People walkin around during the invocation and guest speakers speech.  Had at least one "I like your skirt."  It was from a civilan, one of the ones walking around during the invocation.  If she hadn't been sitting with a couple of friends that I respect
  
 Unfortunately Amy didn't know one of my shipmates.  Anyone from the Navy knows the differance between co-workers and shipmates.  This guy has earned the right to cut back and forth with me.  Amy didn't know that and when he made a comment she went off.  Big time!!!  Had to step in and save this 6' 4" guy (looks just like the guy Bull from Night Court) from my 5' 10" wife.
 
 Oh well, there is still the St Andrews Dinner, Burn's Dinner, ect.
 
 Jim
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                18th October 10, 07:58 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Nice outfit!
 Haven't been to a decent Navy Ball since I left San Diego 12 years ago...  Haven't looked to see if theres one in the Salt Lake City area...
 NEVER a Spectator!When it comes to Hero's, RENEGADES are MINE!
 
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
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