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13th December 10, 11:07 AM
#31
As you say, Nighthawk, the birthday suit is a pagan requirement. But even in the Middle Ages, it was a widespread practice to wear a robe over the birthday suit.
Of course, all this tradition goes back to before there was such a thing for most people as underwear (the underpants required for the High Priest of Israel when serving in the sanctuary beiong a notable exception).
Kilts predate the modern idea of underwear worn by all and sundry.
Regards,
Mike
Last edited by Mike_Oettle; 13th December 10 at 11:13 AM.
The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life.
[Proverbs 14:27]
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15th December 10, 11:29 AM
#32
 Originally Posted by Mike_Oettle
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Of course, all this tradition goes back to before there was such a thing for most people as underwear (the underpants required for the High Priest of Israel when serving in the sanctuary beiong a notable exception).
Kilts predate the modern idea of underwear worn by all and sundry.
Regards,
Mike
Mon Dieu but there is some arcane knowledge available on this website!
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18th December 10, 07:02 PM
#33
Congratulations!!!
I often pipe at a local Presbyterian Church and the minister usually wears the kilt. He wears an ordinary shirt & necktie and a jacket somewhat like a Prince Charlie but without the tails in the back. In fact he was so dressed today when I piped at a funeral there.
I haven't seen blue used as a liturgical colour.
In many Churches purple is used for both Advent and Lent. Check out the candles on an Advent Wreath: three are purple, one is pink. (There was one at the Presb Church I piped at today.)
The pink candle is lit on Gaudete Sunday, the only day of the year Catholic Priests wear pink vestments. (I find this tradition very interesting for some reason. I wonder if other denominations do the Gaudete Sunday thing.)
So in some Churches at least you have purple, green, white, and pink vestments, each colour used at specific times.
The book Catholic Customs and Traditions has this to day:
"The traditional colour of Advent is purple or violet... In northern European countries and England there was a tradition to use for Advent a shade of violet different from that used for Lent. It tended toward dark blue because of the dye used.
Traditionally on the third Sunday of Advent rose-coloured vestments have been used. This colour anticipates and is symbolic of the joy announced in the first word of the Entrance Antiphon: Gaudete (Rejoice)."
By the way, I wore my new Isle of Skye kilt today and was thinking about how well the colours suit Church-wearing, as Isle Of Skye combines green (Ordinary Time) and purple (Advent and Lent).
Last edited by OC Richard; 18th December 10 at 07:16 PM.
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18th December 10, 07:58 PM
#34
 Originally Posted by OC Richard
Congratulations!!!
I often pipe at a local Presbyterian Church and the minister usually wears the kilt. He wears an ordinary shirt & necktie and a jacket somewhat like a Prince Charlie but without the tails in the back. In fact he was so dressed today when I piped at a funeral there.
I haven't seen blue used as a liturgical colour.
In many Churches purple is used for both Advent and Lent. Check out the candles on an Advent Wreath: three are purple, one is pink. (There was one at the Presb Church I piped at today.)
The pink candle is lit on Gaudete Sunday, the only day of the year Catholic Priests wear pink vestments. (I find this tradition very interesting for some reason. I wonder if other denominations do the Gaudete Sunday thing.)
So in some Churches at least you have purple, green, white, and pink vestments, each colour used at specific times.
The book Catholic Customs and Traditions has this to day:
"The traditional colour of Advent is purple or violet... In northern European countries and England there was a tradition to use for Advent a shade of violet different from that used for Lent. It tended toward dark blue because of the dye used.
Traditionally on the third Sunday of Advent rose-coloured vestments have been used. This colour anticipates and is symbolic of the joy announced in the first word of the Entrance Antiphon: Gaudete (Rejoice)."
By the way, I wore my new Isle of Skye kilt today and was thinking about how well the colours suit Church-wearing, as Isle Of Skye combines green (Ordinary Time) and purple (Advent and Lent).
Rest assured, in many Anglican/Episcopal parishes tomorrow, you will find priests wearing blue vestments and blue frontals on the altar, including my own. Our advent wreath has three blue candles and one pink for Gaudete Sunday. Of course, we are the "nosebleed high" Anglo-Catholic parish. 
When I was growing up in the Presbyterian Church, purple was the colour used for Advent.
T.
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18th December 10, 08:36 PM
#35
Some of us who are of the non-liturgical, non-nosebleed-high, non-smells-and-bells persuasion also use dark blue for Advent, to differentiate it from Lent, while trying to maintain the penitential nature of both seasons. The month of dark blue makes the white of Christmas so nice. Almost like it was planned that way, don't you think?
--dbh
When given a choice, most people will choose.
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14th January 11, 03:35 PM
#36
Congratulations from one minister to another! (I'm now a non-denominational Christian, but was raised Roman Catholic and my Senior Pastor is a reformed Anglican. He's also a kilted Scot.)
God Bless,
Chris
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