We are all kilted sinners! Oh no!! :-)

[Dall_Piobaire]

Ah, Come April 14th, it is supposedly April 14th now I believe, strangely right before tax time! I shall endeavor to bring my lawn chair and pipes,along with refreshments, to the field where the divine tour bus is uspposed to pick up this lot of little sheep. As they wander about wondering how they missed the bus, I will play Hey johnny Cope and Bonnie Dundee for them, just that it might ease thier disappointment!

[Dale Seago]

...I have to ask... Was that a Fruedian slip or did you say it on purpose? Either way, I just about fell over laughing!

Given that the Mods are obviously (and appropriately) watching this thread, I can neither confirm nor deny. . .

. . .I fight with broadsword and backsword, and I study 2 Asian and one European style of martial arts.

Way cool. Next time I'm in the Denver area to visit my parents & brother and/or to teach a Bujinkan seminar, I'll make a point of letting you know so we can meet!

[Bugbear]

... Way cool. Next time I'm in the Denver area to visit my parents & brother and/or to teach a Bujinkan seminar, I'll make a point of letting you know so we can meet!

Oh no! Nighthawk, he's going to come up there and kick your butt!

* Decided to remove the MOR quote.

[Nighthawk]

Given that the Mods are obviously (and appropriately) watching this thread, I can neither confirm nor deny. . .



Way cool. Next time I'm in the Denver area to visit my parents & brother and/or to teach a Bujinkan seminar, I'll make a point of letting you know so we can meet!

No kidding!! I'd love to meet for that! I study Shotokan karate and Jujitsu.

[Woodsman]

Hold it....I think I can put an end to this whole thread by just posting that photo of God wearing his kilt. I know that I saw it somewhere..... Ah yes, if I recall correctly, he was standing with Lord Baden Powell in his kilt. Now let me see...

[Nighthawk]

Hold it....I think I can put an end to this whole thread by just posting that photo of God wearing his kilt. I know that I saw it somewhere..... Ah yes, if I recall correctly, he was standing with Lord Baden Powell in his kilt. Now let me see...

I found it!



On a serious note... There is one small thing about this forum that has always bothered me just a little- the heavy hand that the moderators seem to think they need to take with serious discussions. The vast majority of threads are "This girl liked my kilt" or "Some idiot in Wal Mart did something annoying" and those kinds of threads are fine. But ones like this help us to genuinely get to know each other- they help solidify us as a community. All too often when we start to actually talk openly and honestly, the thread gets closed down. Well I think that this thread has been a real positive thing for this board. We have been able to talk as people- not sterilized, not deleted- and I for one have found it to be a very enlightening experience.

Thank you, moderators, for the job that you do- and for letting this thread go on and letting us have this discussion! This kind of thread shows that we as a community have the maturity to discuss a potentially divisive subject matter in a constructive way. Open communication like this really helps to build the comaradarie among us. I'd say this thread proves the quality of the people here, and more conversations like this in the future should be encouraged with slightly less moderation- like was done in this thread. Old friendships have become stronger (this post was inspired by a PM conversation between Bugbear and myself) and new ones have grown- Biblemonkey! This is by far one of the best threads this forum has had since I joined 3 years ago.

[Bugbear]

Yes, it has been an interesting thread, thanks all.

I really did send Nighthawk a PM, and he knows

The Rest of the Story.

Good day.

[BoldHighlander]

I really did send Nighthawk a PM, and he knows

The Rest of the Story.

Good day.

Men of mystery!

[OftKilted]

Only slightly. If you look, he's standing on rocks a little lower. The bottom of his kilt is at about the bottom of the knee. His kilt appears to be twice as long as the guy on the left because his shirt is tucked in it, while the guy on the left has his hiding the upper part of his kilt. Though, if the guy on the right were to lower his kilt a bit, considering that pleats aren't really visible in that pic, I would possibly consider that it's not a kilt, but a tartan version of the (modern) German mannerok (sp?)

(Had to put this in here to possibly bring this thread back around)

What I find interesting about the picture of the "longer" kilt is that it is actually managed to make it into more "mainstream" clothing lines. E.G. Tripp. (For those not familiar with Tripp, they sell a product line that appeals to the alternate/goth/punk crowd. Though, they aim for a more androgenous piece of clothing examples http://www.google.com/search?q=tripp+kilt
It has apparently been referenced on X Marks several years back according to the google search.

The longer kilt style actually looks much like closer to the Mountain Hardware ElCommando kilt and the Tripp Kilt.

[OC Richard]

Many people still quote the King James Bible (or Authorised Version) because it is what they grew up with... it has been around for so long... it is very similar to Shakespearean language...its meaning is very close to that of the original Hebrew...it is more familiar to most English-speakers than any particular modern translation.

I think it's more than just being around a long time. Nobody remembers the Cloverdale/Tyndale, Taverner, Cranmer (Great Bible), Geneva, or Bishop's bible which came out in the years leading up to the King James.

It's because the committee that wrote the King James (yes it's one of the few good things to be created by committee) put a huge emphasis on the poetry of the language. It was meant to sound good read out loud. The committee considered a number of translations for each passage and chose the one that sounded the best.

Our modern translations all sound to me like they're written by scholars, not poets. They're very accurate to the original Greek (NT), much more accurate than the King James, because we have older manuscripts to work from today, and better scholarship to understand them. But when I read them they sound wooden and stiff (at best) and clumsy and unidiomatic (at worst). Some modern translations have a bizarre mix of modern slang and formal language.

Off topic I know! But interesting stuff to me at least.

On topic: I work with a guy who might be the poster child for narrowminded judgemental Christians, and when I told him about this thread, even HE thought this kiltwearing-sinful-guy is an idiot. (As a former Marine he views the kilt as a warlike garment, not an effeminate one.)