We are all kilted sinners! Oh no!! :-)

[robdog1701]

If wearing a kilt is my greatest sin... I'm not as evil as I thougth!

[Nighthawk]

If wearing a kilt is my greatest sin... I'm not as evil as I thougth!

Ya know... It occurs to me that by the logic of the rugged man going to heaven and the "soft" man being a sinner, then hell is going to be populated with pipers, kilted warriors, wild women, whiskey, rock musicians, and heaven will be populated with people like the author. With this in mind... the downside of going to hell is what exactly?

[robdog1701]

Ya know... It occurs to me that by the logic of the rugged man going to heaven and the "soft" man being a sinner, then hell is going to be populated with pipers, kilted warriors, wild women, whiskey, rock musicians, and heaven will be populated with people like the author. With this in mind... the downside of going to hell is what exactly?

You've a good point, Nighthawk. If satan is smart, he might not let us in for fear we'll take over.

[Bugbear]

Something's been bothering me in the back of my mind in the discussion, only because I grew up partly with folks like the article writer and now have a few neighbors along the same vein. There are denominations that believe people can interpret the Bible by opening it and reading it through divine inspiration and guidance, though often also under the guidance of the church pastor. The writer of the article probably believes he is divinely inspired in his views of the kilt and that these verses he has picked out, along with his understanding of them, were under guidance of the spirit or something along that line.

Just trying to give an insight into his thinking that might be going on here, knowing from first hand experience this point of view is out there.
I also grew up partly with people of the atheist point of view at the same time, talking parents...
It's funny to notice some of my automatic reactions, coming from that time in my life, to some of the posts.

[Lallans]

Ya know... It occurs to me that by the logic of the rugged man going to heaven and the "soft" man being a sinner, then hell is going to be populated with pipers, kilted warriors, wild women, whiskey, rock musicians, and heaven will be populated with people like the author. With this in mind... the downside of going to hell is what exactly?

I believe it was no less a person than Mark Twain who observed that he would want to go to Heaven for the weather, but to Hell for the company....

[robdog1701]

Maybe Bugbear, but I'm inclined to believe he is just really upset because his girlfriend, daughter, wife, or whatever ran off with some kilted warrior. :-)

[AFS1970]

...On a serious note... There is one small thing about this forum that has always bothered me just a little- the heavy hand that the moderators seem to think they need to take with serious discussions. The vast majority of threads are "This girl liked my kilt" or "Some idiot in Wal Mart did something annoying" and those kinds of threads are fine. But ones like this help us to genuinely get to know each other- they help solidify us as a community. All too often when we start to actually talk openly and honestly, the thread gets closed down. Well I think that this thread has been a real positive thing for this board. We have been able to talk as people- not sterilized, not deleted- and I for one have found it to be a very enlightening experience.

Thank you, moderators, for the job that you do- and for letting this thread go on and letting us have this discussion! This kind of thread shows that we as a community have the maturity to discuss a potentially divisive subject matter in a constructive way. Open communication like this really helps to build the camaraderie among us. I'd say this thread proves the quality of the people here, and more conversations like this in the future should be encouraged with slightly less moderation- like was done in this thread. Old friendships have become stronger (this post was inspired by a PM conversation between Bugbear and myself) and new ones have grown- Biblemonkey! This is by far one of the best threads this forum has had since I joined 3 years ago.

Well said.

Perhaps we should limit our use of PC anything to discussions on Prince Charlie coatees.

As I said once before about a set of other threads, it is impossible to have a discussion about religion without discussing religion. While I could guess that those quoting specific scripture in their posts most likely believe that scripture they quoted from, that would really only be a guess. No one, even those that used such quotes, ever said that their religion was better than any other religion, which is the prohibition I read in Rule #5.

One thing that happens on internet forums is that we all want to make out point. So when there was one post which a number of us thought crossed the line, many people posted about that post. Sure one post could have sufficed, but that just wouldn't be what the internet is all about. I did think is oddly comical that for a few pages, we were discussing having a discussion while not actually having the discussion we were discussing, but that is probably just my own sense of the absurd.

[David White]

If you don't like it, don't look more than once.

[Nighthawk]

Maybe Bugbear, but I'm inclined to believe he is just really upset because his girlfriend, daughter, wife, or whatever ran off with some kilted warrior. :-)

[Howard Clark]

Why does anybody care what this one narrow minded individual thinks ?

I wear the kilt because I want to. If that condemns me to spend eternity in hell, it will be the least of my sins.