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    Quote Originally Posted by Thistle amang the heather View Post
    Because the Britons living north of Hadrian's Wall were not under Roman control, they retained their own indigenous native Celtic culture and language, whereas the Britons living south of Hadrian's wall were more influenced by Roman ways and manners....
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    Again, reading from Robert Falconer by George MacDonald (ca. 1860), he refers to the kilt as a Roman garment. Just thought I'd confuse the issue further.

    oh, and judging from the amazing atrocities I saw worn in the local pub last St.Paddy's Day, I'd say anything goes, but perhaps you don't want to register kilts in peoples' minds in the same category as plastic green leprechaun hats! I think I'll pass. It's also too likely to get beer spilled all over it.

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    Also just reading over Thistle's DELETED biographical material and thinking that poor old Patrick has as many birthplaces in the British Isles as the poet Homer does in Greece. When I was a lad in Anglican school and in Canadian Cubscouts, we were told he was captured in England. In Eire, they aren't having that and claim he was Welsh. And now Scotland is in the mix!

    I have to submit that, looking at his Latin skills, he definitely seems to have come from Roman Britain and that was more in the way of being what is now England than either Wales or Scotland.... he did love and admire the Celts and I'm sure he would be a kilt fan though. The Celtic kilt.

    EDIT: Thistle got deleted, meaning I ain't crazy, not yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thistle amang the heather View Post
    St. Patrick was apparently born in what is now Scotland. According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, St. Patrick the Apostle of Ireland, was born at Kilpatrick, near Dumbarton, in Scotland, in the year 387. Of course Scotland didn't actually exist in 387 AD and Dumbarton was at that time the capital of the ancient kingdom of the Britons of Strathclyde, so Patrick was most likely a Briton.
    "Who are the Britons?"



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    Quote Originally Posted by davidlpope View Post
    "Who are the Britons?"


    Excellent! In today's terms, it's meaningless where Patrick was kidnapped from. All the players have changed

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    I think the fact that Patrick was born in Britain is a wonderful symbol of unity that we can carry with us into the 21st century. What better tool for peace and reconciliation than a man born in Britain and now hailed as the patron Saint of Ireland? It's something both cultures can share and celebrate.

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    Back to the topic: one reason NOT to wear a kilt on St. Pat's - all the people who will come up to you and ask "when are you playing?"
    Brian

    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin

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    It's also my brother's birthday so I have two excuses for wearing a kilt!
    [B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McClef View Post
    It's also my brother's birthday so I have two excuses for wearing a kilt!
    Your brother is St. Patrick???????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsheal View Post
    Back to the topic: one reason NOT to wear a kilt on St. Pat's - all the people who will come up to you and ask "when are you playing?"
    That's why I often carry a harmonica in my sporran. Pull out my blues harp, say "How about now," and start wailin'.

    It also works when someone asks if I play the pipes. Scotland the Brave actually sounds pretty good on a harmonica.
    The grass is greener on the other side of the fence...and it's usually greenest right above the septic tank.
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    Yes, St. Patrick came from Scotland after all. I have worn mine to many St. Patrick's Day events - sometimes with hardly any green in my attire!

    Slainte,

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