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    How about keeping the flashes and foregoing the tall boots?
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    I wear normal hose and flashes with 6-eye docs when going super casual. Knee-high boots (no offense to those that choose to wear them) don't look quite right to my eye with a kilt, but if there is a utilitarian need to wear high boots with your kilt, more power to ya.

    The knee-high renfaire boots are about as period correct as Conan the Barbarian, by the way. Be wary that you might turn out looking like half a pirate, half a highlander... it just reeks of "costume".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    How about keeping the flashes and foregoing the tall boots?
    This IS an option... but I've been looking forward to getting a pair of Native Earth 8 button boots for a while now. If I don't go with the boot, then I'd get a pair of ghilies. I should probably get some traditional foot wear eventually.

    Now you have me rethinking my whole shoe vs. boot dilema, Jock Scot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    How about keeping the flashes and foregoing the tall boots?
    I saw someone do that once... He also left the socks out and was wearing sandals... with flashes wrapped around his legs.

    So onto the question- I personally think the look is rather silly. The flashes would fall over the tops of the boots, which being tall, eliminate the need for the flashes, anyway! The point of the garters is to hold the hose up. So if you already have knee high boots, what is the point of the flashes? And this especially if you're wearing Renaissance boots (Katskill mocs?). Flashes are very modern, as are woven hose, and look all the more out of place with Ren garb. I do wear flashes with boots, but only when it's cold out and the hose are needed to keep my legs warm, and then, my boots are only slightly higher than ankle height- work boots! And even at that, I don't particularly like the look. It's just the most practical thing for me personally to do. So there you are. My thoughts.

    Another thing to consider (coming from the perspective of an historical reenactor) is the white hose. I am naturally repelled by them for many reasons, but in "period" garb, they look even worse than in modern garb! The knee high boots, while not period as was pointed out, at least give the illusion of being period much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nighthawk View Post
    I saw someone do that once... He also left the socks out and was wearing sandals... with flashes wrapped around his legs.

    So onto the question- I personally think the look is rather silly. The flashes would fall over the tops of the boots, which being tall, eliminate the need for the flashes, anyway! The point of the garters is to hold the hose up. So if you already have knee high boots, what is the point of the flashes? And this especially if you're wearing Renaissance boots (Katskill mocs?). Flashes are very modern, as are woven hose, and look all the more out of place with Ren garb. I do wear flashes with boots, but only when it's cold out and the hose are needed to keep my legs warm, and then, my boots are only slightly higher than ankle height- work boots! And even at that, I don't particularly like the look. It's just the most practical thing for me personally to do. So there you are. My thoughts.

    Another thing to consider (coming from the perspective of an historical reenactor) is the white hose. I am naturally repelled by them for many reasons, but in "period" garb, they look even worse than in modern garb! The knee high boots, while not period as was pointed out, at least give the illusion of being period much better.
    As for the hose thing, I think the hose I was wearing in that picture is the natural or tan color, it just looks white in the picture, same with the silly shirt I'm wearing.

    I think you have me leaning towards getting a pair of these:


    And, it's my understanding that the Scots of ole went bare legged... does that mean no socks or hose? The sandals pictured, according to the vendor selling them, are based on the shoes worn by "the Gaels (hence the name "Gaelles"), Celts, Scots, English and mimicked by the Romans." I'd tie them a little higher up on the leg.

    Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    Understood. Might long boots be a tad warm over there at this time of year though?
    It depends. I wear Minitonka moccasins myself. Those are designed by the native tribes, and they work GREAT in my climate! Problem is that people mistake them for some sort of costume garb when I wear them with my kilt...

    Quote Originally Posted by Droid View Post
    As for the hose thing, I think the hose I was wearing in that picture is the natural or tan color, it just looks white in the picture, same with the silly shirt I'm wearing.

    I think you have me leaning towards getting a pair of these:


    And, it's my understanding that the Scots of ole went bare legged... does that mean no socks or hose? The sandals pictured, according to the vendor selling them, are based on the shoes worn by "the Gaels (hence the name "Gaelles"), Celts, Scots, English and mimicked by the Romans." I'd tie them a little higher up on the leg.

    Any thoughts?
    Those aren't bad. They're not quite right, though (but close!!), and the descriptors have it backwards- the Celts stole them from the Romans. As to being historical, they are in the most basic sense. If you really want to be accurate, get your hands on a hide, cut out 2 pieces to roughly fit your feet, sew them, and use leather strips as ties, very similar to those. Or if you don't do leather working yourself those are actually pretty good. Honestly I want a pair myself. As to the bare legged thing, the term is redshanks. Yes, that was common. The hose that were worn were sewn from tartan left over from the kilt. They were simply sewn tubes- think Larry the Cable Guy sending you his sleeves- with the feet closed off.
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    I would think the flash or garter ties would be unnecessary with such tall boots. As has been mentioned, they're users to keep the hose up. If your boots already go up to just below the knee, I wouldn't wear the flashes or garter ties.

    My 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    How about keeping the flashes and foregoing the tall boots?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidlpope View Post
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    Thing with that is that it sounds like the OP is trying to put together a Renaissance Festival outfit, given the fact that he talked about the boots being from a Renaissance Festival vendor.
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