Quote Originally Posted by Matty Ross View Post
HOWEVER some of us do not have the advantage of a slim body shape. If I don't wear a belt my kilt will fall off.
I do not own a formal kilt belt with plate but have a couple informal wide belts. I'm not quite as thin as I once was, but still I find that knocking a couple inches off the top of the kilt gives me better proportions. (as an aside, I find that kilts adapt better to a variety of men's proportions than do trousers.)

As a result, I usually wear a belt when without a waistcoat despite the annoyance of an automobile seat knocking it out of positon. O the tempation to use belt loops, but as noted, I well understand the ill consequenses of using the sporran strap loops for a belt.