Duke and Duchess of Cambridge?

**YoungMan** · 29th April 11, 08:44 AM

I have some questions for all those with a more developed knowledge of titular protocol. Everyone's been throwing Princess Kate around, but I started thinking about it and just didn't think it played out like that. Wanted some answers.

1. What is Catherine Middleton's last name now? Windsor? Wales?
2. Is she a Princess? Based on my own limited knowledge of how it works she would be Duchess of Cambridge as Prince William's prince doesn't come from a title like Prince of Wales but from his blood relation to the Queen. So they are Prince William, Duke of York and Duchess Catherine of York? She wouldn't become a princess until Charles becomes king and William becomes The Prince of Wales, right?
3. If they have a son before Charles becomes king would he use the Prince's second title as Earl of Strathearn or does he just use the royal Prince title?

Any info is appreciated.

**Chas** · 29th April 11, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by YoungMan

I have some questions for all those with a more developed knowledge of titular protocol. Everyone's been throwing Princess Kate around, but I started thinking about it and just didn't think it played out like that. Wanted some answers.

1. What is Catherine Middleton's last name now? Windsor? Wales?
2. Is she a Princess? Based on my own limited knowledge of how it works she would be Duchess of Cambridge as Prince William's prince doesn't come from a title like Prince of Wales but from his blood relation to the Queen. So they are Prince William, Duke of York and Duchess Catherine of York? She wouldn't become a princess until Charles becomes king and William becomes The Prince of Wales, right?
3. If they have a son before Charles becomes king would he use the Prince's second title as Earl of Strathearn or does he just use the royal Prince title?

Any info is appreciated.

1. She no longer has a surname, but if one is required (commercial flights and the like) then she can use Windsor.

2. Yes, she is a princess, because she married a prince. She is not a princess in her own right as she was not born a princess, therefore she is not and never will be Princess Catherine (or Kate). She is officially Her Royal Highness Princess William Arthur Philip Louis, Duchess of Cambridge, Countess of Strathearn, Baroness Carrickfergus.

3. The first son of their marriage would be His Royal Highness Prince firstname of Cambridge Earl of Strathearn.

Regards

Chas

**Spartan Tartan** · 29th April 11, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by Chas

1. She no longer has a surname, but if one is required (commercial flights and the like) then she can use Windsor.

Interesting...no surname, huh?

Originally Posted by Chas

2. Yes, she is a princess, because she married a prince. She is not a princess in her own right as she was not born a princess, therefore she is not and never will be Princess Catherine (or Kate). She is officially Her Royal Highness Princess William Arthur Philip Louis, Duchess of Cambridge, Countess of Strathearn, Baroness Carrickfergus.

But I suspect she will be lovingly referred to as Princess Kate within the Media and for just the ease of conversation. No?

**Chas** · 29th April 11, 11:20 AM

Just like William's mother was incorrectly called "Princess Diana or Di".

As an alternative she could be called Her Royal Highness Catherine, The Duchess of Cambridge. A shorter and slightly less formal style.

Regards

Chas

**Chas** · 29th April 11, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Chas

1. She no longer has a surname, but if one is required (commercial flights and the like) then she can use Windsor.

Originally Posted by Spartan Tartan

Interesting...no surname, huh?

Many years ago, before Prince William was born, Prince Charles and Diana used Evans, Jones and Powell (all Welsh names) for airlines and hotels. The names were deliberately chosen because they were "of Wales".

Regards

Chas

**Chas** · 29th April 11, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Spartan Tartan

But I suspect she will be lovingly referred to as Princess Kate within the Media and for just the ease of conversation. No?

In spoken conversation, she can be addressed as Ma'am (to rhyme with spam, but not to rhyme with farm).

Regards

Chas

**Big Josh** · 29th April 11, 11:41 AM

Everyone at work is laughing that I am going to watch the wedding, even my wife thinks it a bit silly. But I love the pageantry of it all. Plus my dad was from England and I am sure he and my grandmum would watch it.

Chas thanks for the information!--Big Josh

**Chas** · 29th April 11, 11:59 AM

Hi Josh,

Ignoring all the sentiment and nonsense, this wedding has generated over £1million, up to midnight before the wedding, in alcohol sales alone. Add in all the other costs, transport, hotels, food, souvenirs and then more alcohol on the day - how can that injection of revenue be bad for any economy?

This has been a good thing for the UK and will continue to be so.

Regards

Chas

**Spartan Tartan** · 29th April 11, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Chas

In spoken conversation, she can be addressed as Ma'am (to rhyme with spam, but not to rhyme with farm).

Regards

Chas

So, I will certainly not use a Southern drawl when speaking to the new Princess...if ever I am so fortunate to do so.

Actually, just after typing the Princess Kate part earlier, I heard the newscaster use exactly that phrase.

**Tim Little** · 29th April 11, 12:20 PM

So, quick question:

My understanding is that in Scotland the Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall are generally referred to respecitvely as the Duke and Duchess of Rothesay. Is this following a particular protocol, or is it a personal preference?

Similarly, would the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge be referred to as the Earl and Countess of Strathearn whilst north of the border?