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24th May 11, 07:21 PM
#11
Hey, thanks for the resource, it's a good one. As for me though, I've never had much luck with following visual, pictorial guides like this. I've had much more luck watching and following along with video instructions. Thanks to the wonder that is Youtube, tying a bowtie becomes easy!
I occassionally wear bowties to work (and other types of non-standard neckwear) just because. Actually, today I just happen to be wearing one.
Here are my 2 favourite guides (that make the most sense to me).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJv4Qh7zR3E
(The part that says to "snap it shut" is very good advice.)
http://www.youtube.com/v/nKeuucjpckA
The final result:
![](http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9156/photo3hg.jpg)
A hand-tied bowtie always has some "personality" to it. ith:
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24th May 11, 08:36 PM
#12
Thanks for the links CDNSushi.
I am curious about your other types of non-standard neckwear ![Razz](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
I am always up for something new.
Chris.
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24th May 11, 10:16 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Bugbear
Strange, I kind of like the "lop sidedness" of the four-in-hand on a thick wool tie. That's what I used in my pictures up in the gallery.
I'm with you, Ted. I don't like the bulk of the Windsor, Half-Windsor or Pratt knots, but, even more, the symmetry is what really turns me off. It's the same problem I have with pre-tied ties of any sort. Anything too perfect looks like it was tied by a machine (or your valet?) rather than by yourself. If you buy a tie with enough bulk or heft to it a decent four-in-hand knot will even work with a spread or semi-spread collar.
A good four-in-hand with a slightly off center dimple is just the thing to both avoid ostentation and make it look like you know what you're doing.
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24th May 11, 10:22 PM
#14
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Brian K
I'm with you, Ted. I don't like the bulk of the Windsor, Half-Windsor or Pratt knots, but, even more, the symmetry is what really turns me off. It's the same problem I have with pre-tied ties of any sort. Anything too perfect looks like it was tied by a machine (or your valet?) rather than by yourself. If you buy a tie with enough bulk or heft to it a decent four-in-hand knot will even work with a spread or semi-spread collar.
A good four-in-hand with a slightly off center dimple is just the thing to both avoid ostentation and make it look like you know what you're doing.
You just upset my Valet! ![Laughing](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
Chris.
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24th May 11, 10:33 PM
#15
What I do not understand is the ruche ties.
![](http://www.mcallans.co.uk/images/products/85_large_36580.jpg)
They look as though they have been tied by a chimpanzee rather than a valet!
Jeeves! leave those banana's alone.
Chris.
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24th May 11, 10:38 PM
#16
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by chrisupyonder
What I do not understand is the ruche ties.
They look as though they have been tied by a chimpanzee rather than a valet!
Chris.
I'm with ya on this, Chris - I've never liked the things either.
Please offer my apologies to your valet, but remind him that he never should have let you wear the clip on bow ties to begin with
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25th May 11, 12:00 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Brian K
I'm with you, Ted. I don't like the bulk of the Windsor, Half-Windsor or Pratt knots, but, even more, the symmetry is what really turns me off. It's the same problem I have with pre-tied ties of any sort. Anything too perfect looks like it was tied by a machine (or your valet?) rather than by yourself. If you buy a tie with enough bulk or heft to it a decent four-in-hand knot will even work with a spread or semi-spread collar.
A good four-in-hand with a slightly off center dimple is just the thing to both avoid ostentation and make it look like you know what you're doing.
Don't get me wrong, a four-in-hand can be done in a sloppy way, so could a Windsor for that matter, and look horrible.
It's like a hand tied bow that shows what it really is;a layered bow, instead of two triangles sticking out of a knot that might possibly start spinning and squirt water at someone.
Last edited by Bugbear; 25th May 11 at 12:10 AM.
Reason: Couldn't think of the correct name so removed something.
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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25th May 11, 01:03 AM
#18
I've used the Windsor knot for forty years. Graduating Basic Training required dress greens and that was the knot one of the older guys used (my valet was busy polishing my low quarters. )
[I][B]Nearly all men can stand adversity. If you really want to test a man’s character,
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