Proper hose with the PC tux

[KEArnold]

The original question asked "proper hose with the PC".



The Prince Charlie is NEVER shown with selfcoloured/plain hose, but invariably with diced or tartan hose and buckled shoes. (The shoes shown are Mary Jane style, "Cromwell" style, or ghillies with buckles at the toes.)




It states "The coatee is specially suitable for a young man or an older man of slim figure. It is definately less suitable for the stouter figure. A neat close-fitting coat, it is generally made in black cloth with silk facings or in green cloth... the waistcoat may be of cloth to match the coat, tartan to match the kilt, scarlet or other colour...
Stockings... are knitted to match the tartan of the kilt, or diced stockings of different colours are correct."

So say the Highland Dress makers of the 1930s.

okay so the buckle shoe was popular at the turn of the century(ish)

the comment about "The coatee is specially suitable for a young man or an older man of slim figure. It is definitely less suitable for the stouter figure" irks ma a bit though. What's a rather fat individual (such as myself) suppose to dress like then?

http://www.thesteampunkempire.com/ph...y?context=user

the above link shows how I was dressed. I was literally the MOST popular person there.

[piperdbh]

Looks just like you!

[JSFMACLJR]

the comment about "The coatee is specially suitable for a young man or an older man of slim figure. It is definitely less suitable for the stouter figure" irks ma a bit though. What's a rather fat individual (such as myself) suppose to dress like then?
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A "regulation" style doublet is a much better choice.

[creagdhubh]

A "regulation" style doublet is a much better choice.

Precisely.

[OC Richard]

the comment about "The coatee is specially suitable for a young man or an older man of slim figure. It is definitely less suitable for the stouter figure" irks ma a bit though. What's a rather fat individual (such as myself) suppose to dress like then?

The old Highland Dress catalogues from that time (the 20's and 30's) repeatedly stress that the "Coatee" (Prince Charlie) is suitable for young men, and that the "Doublet" (Regulation Doublet) is more traditonal/old-fashioned and suitable for older gentlemen.

Since I have hundreds of photos and paintings showing the Doublet being worn from the 1860s up through the 1930s, and no images of the Coatee from before the 1920s, I can infer that in the 20s the Coatee was a recent innovation and was trendy and popular with young men.

I can find no reference in these old catalogues to the Coatee being of recent design, but I do find references to the Montrose and Kenmore doublets as being recently invented things.

Styles change! When I started attending kilted functions in the late 70s and early 80s it was the older stout gentlemen who were wearing Prince Charlies and the younger dashing men (such as myself at that time!) wearing other things- I wore a Claret velvet Montrose doublet at that time to stand out from all the old guys.

And here are some of the world's top pipers gathered in Scotland- it's the dashing fellow with an eye for standing out from the crowd who is wearing a (Regulation) Doublet, the rest wearing Coatees. He's also the only one wearing buckles on his ghillies, often seen in the 1930s with Evening Dress.



BTW I personally never liked white or offwhite hose with Evening Dress, not in the 70s or 80s and still not today.

When I got married, in the 80s, there was a delay in my tartan hose arriving so I wore blue hose with my Prince Charlie Coatee.