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31st March 09, 09:08 PM
#91
There is also a Virginia tartan, ITI 004060
"...the Code is more what you'd call 'guidelines' than actual rules."
Captain Hector Barbossa
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31st March 09, 09:56 PM
#92
 Originally Posted by kiltimabar
There is also a Virginia tartan, ITI 004060
Tue, but the Gordon tartan is much more readily available, and therefore less expensive.
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31st March 09, 10:59 PM
#93
Jusskipy,
As Gilmore has suggested, the search feature is your friend on this topic:
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...chquery=jewish
I second his suggestion of the Gordon tartan, both because it has been worn by Scottish Jews, and because of the history of Lord George Gordon
Best regards,
Jake
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1st April 09, 06:11 AM
#94
An Irish district tartan is always a choice - some of them are very handsome.
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Some clans will let you join in friend status, or if you "swear" allegiance to the clan chief.
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1st April 09, 06:41 AM
#95
Here is my view:
The Heraldry Foundation was was not founded until the early 1800's and did not release any "Clan" Tartans until the late 1800's. So it really depends on your application.
In the 1700's it was very common for a Scot to where at least 2 different tartans at the same time. It was typical for the Waistcoat, Weskit, kilt and socks to all be different, if the Scot was wealthy. By modern terms, this is ugly as sin, but was the peak of fashion then.
Now, I would suggest wearing your clan, or at least do research on the clan you are wearing. Ex. I am a MacDonell of Glengarry. You will never catch me in anything Campbell, nor will I wear a Black watch Kilt. For those who know the history between the MacDonald clans and the Campbells, this is very easy to understand. In my opinion, wear what you want, but make sure you know exactly who you are wearing and representing yourself as.
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1st April 09, 07:00 AM
#96
Yup. Off the top of my head I wear the Loud MacLeod (of Lewis) and the MacLean Hunting because I like them. The later a bit in honor of Sir Sean Connery.
Loud MacLeod goes well at Pow-Wows where the style of dress is "colorful."
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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1st April 09, 07:11 AM
#97
In the infancy of my kilt wearing days, I was real hung up on this subject. I am a Boyd, with Calqhoun decendants. The clan(s) neighboring/longtime enemy was the MacGregors (see Battle of Fruin). Lo and behold, 2 years later I had to wear the MacGregor tartan because of my pipe band! Lol. I dropped the clannish attitude out of preservation (and reality).
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1st April 09, 07:35 AM
#98
 Originally Posted by Devlyn
Here is my view:
The Heraldry Foundation was was not founded until the early 1800's and did not release any "Clan" Tartans until the late 1800's. So it really depends on your application.
In the 1700's it was very common for a Scot to where at least 2 different tartans at the same time. It was typical for the Waistcoat, Weskit, kilt and socks to all be different, if the Scot was wealthy. By modern terms, this is ugly as sin, but was the peak of fashion then.
Now, I would suggest wearing your clan, or at least do research on the clan you are wearing. Ex. I am a MacDonell of Glengarry. You will never catch me in anything Campbell, nor will I wear a Black watch Kilt. For those who know the history between the MacDonald clans and the Campbells, this is very easy to understand. In my opinion, wear what you want, but make sure you know exactly who you are wearing and representing yourself as.
What is the "Heraldry Foundation"? Are you perhaps making reference to the Lyon Court, which 1). really has very little to do with tartans and 2) has been round much longer than 1800? Or perhaps the Highland Society of London (or a similar organisation) which started recording "clan tartans" around 1815?
In regards to a Macdonald wearing Government Sett, I would bet you would find a fair number of them on the rolls of the Black Watch regiment. 
Regards,
Todd
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1st April 09, 08:21 AM
#99
Kilts in my arsenal are an SK All Ireland Green, an SK Black Stewart and my (soon to arrive) Lochcarron Buchanan Hunting Modern tank. The All Ireland I wear because I'm an Ulster-Scot. The Black Stewart I wear to honor a close friend and brother in arms (we're both retired now). My tank is for my Clan of which my family is a Sept. I don't tend towards hardcore traditionalist thinking in that you can only wear a tartan with which you have a direct connection. However, I do feel if one wears a non-associated tartan they should AT LEAST have some knowledge of what they are donning. After all, it's not merely a textile - it's wearable history! People have feasted, starved, laughed, cried, and some have died for what their tartan represents.
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1st April 09, 09:40 AM
#100
Germany, Russia, Poland, or Lithuania tartans
 Originally Posted by jusskippy
Seeing as how there is no Jewish tartan, nor is there a tartan for Germany, Russia, Poland, or Lithuania, I have no claim to a clan or district tartan
Don't speak too fast. there are, in fact tartans for some of the above...
http://www.scottishtartans.org/german.htm
http://www.polishculture.co.uk/index...tent&task=view
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