Ghillie brogues - why the dislike and resentment..?

**Troglodyte** · 18th July 24, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by Troglodyte

How about this?

Nothing in the article most of us don't already know, but it's interesting to note it shows a ghillie brogue which it tells us is ...a modern Brogue exactly one hundred years old...

Yeah, so what, you say.

This cutting is in a museum archive bound volume of articles published in 1933..!

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Scottish Encylopedia brogue.jpg

**Troglodyte** · 23rd July 24, 01:50 AM

Like a cunning lawyer who wants the muddle the minds of the jury, I now present to Exhibit B...

Prince of Wales (DoW) Highland dress.jpg

Who better than HRH Prince of Wales (later to become Duke of Windsor in exchange for his kingdom) in a stylish and natty rigoot that dates from slap bang in the middle of the TCHD benchmark era. Notice his footwear. Who here is brave enough to fault him..?

I added this same pic on another thread, as a kind of historic and TCHD validation of the splendid shepherd-check kilt-hose Figheadair has posted recently, as it goes to show that the style-leaders of a century ago are still strides ahead when it comes to setting sartorial standards.

So it's good to see our own Figheadair is keeping pace with them..!

**Jock Scot** · 23rd July 24, 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by Troglodyte

Like a cunning lawyer who wants the muddle the minds of the jury, I now present to Exhibit B...

Prince of Wales (DoW) Highland dress.jpg

Who better than HRH Prince of Wales (later to become Duke of Windsor in exchange for his kingdom) in a stylish and natty rigoot that dates from slap bang in the middle of the TCHD benchmark era. Notice his footwear. Who here is brave enough to fault him..?

I added this same pic on another thread, as a kind of historic and TCHD validation of the splendid shepherd-check kilt-hose Figheadair has posted recently, as it goes to show that the style-leaders of a century ago are still strides ahead when it comes to setting sartorial standards.

So it's good to see our own Figheadair is keeping pace with them..!

The Duke of Windsor was a frivolous man, who, as with many things, he demonstrated well. His attire often demonstrated that fact perfectly.

**OC Richard** · 23rd July 24, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by Troglodyte

Scottish Encylopedia brogue.jpg

As is often the case there's no provenance given for either pair of shoes.

The photo of the purported ancient shoe ("rivilin") looks very much like the Armenian cave shoe that several articles on the origin of the Ghillie has shown, these articles implying that the shoe is connected with Scotland, which it isn't.

But that Armenia cave shoe was only found in 2008. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Areni-1_shoe

So I wonder what shoe is in the photo.

Most articles about Ghillies also show Aran Islands pamputai again without mentioning their identity and letting be implied that they're ancient Highland shoes.

**timemeddler** · 31st July 24, 07:27 PM

people dislike brogues? why? I'd wear them, they look like they'd be great for those who have sweaty feet problems.

**Jock Scot** · 31st July 24, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by timemeddler

people dislike brogues? why? I'd wear them, they look like they'd be great for those who have sweaty feet problems.

Ummmm to be clear here, it is the ghillie brogue style that is under discussion , not brogue( brogued) shoes in general. There is a marked difference.

**timemeddler** · 1st August 24, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

Ummmm to be clear here, it is the ghillie brogue style that is under discussion , not brogue( brogued) shoes in general. There is a marked difference.

Oh, okay, I'm looking into getting a pair of the dancing type.

**figheadair** · 1st August 24, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by timemeddler

Oh, okay, I'm looking into getting a pair of the dancing type.

For clarity, they are called Ghillies, but never brogues.

**OC Richard** · 3rd August 24, 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by timemeddler

I'm looking into getting a pair of the dancing type.

Are you going to be doing Country dancing? Or perhaps Highland dancing?

Those are the very Ghillies for that.

But they're not designed for being used as shoes in the ordinary sense, being thinner than even Native American moccasins.

Perhaps more suitable would be the Ghillie-inspired footwear I've seen.

They strike me as a hybrid of modern Ghillie-brogues, Native American moccasins, and the RR McIan illustrations.

https://nativearth.net/product/ghillies/

This particular maker is in California and they had a booth at one of our Highland Games.

In person the shoes looked sturdy and well-made and would stand up to quite a bit of use. I've seen these being worn at local Renaissance Fairs.

**timemeddler** · 3rd August 24, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by OC Richard

Are you going to be doing Country dancing? Or perhaps Highland dancing?

Those are the very Ghillies for that.

But they're not designed for being used as shoes in the ordinary sense, being thinner than even Native American moccasins.

Perhaps more suitable would be the Ghillie-inspired footwear I've seen.

They strike me as a hybrid of modern Ghillie-brogues, Native American moccasins, and the RR McIan illustrations.

https://nativearth.net/product/ghillies/

This particular maker is in California and they had a booth at one of our Highland Games.

In person the shoes looked sturdy and well-made and would stand up to quite a bit of use. I've seen these being worn at local Renaissance Fairs.

square dancing actually.