Kilt, Skirt, MUG, etc.

[Freedomlover]

Not that my opinion matters much, but I saw nothing awry in your post.

[Kilts_Knave]

Sorry, I was referring to the link "Shay" provided, which is quite simply off-color in mixed company, particularly when one takes into account there are minors involved in this discussion board. I should have been more clear.

[Kilts_Knave]

Hey, I went back to edit it. Now it should be clearer. Please read.

I was trying to get the thread back on topic, for which I am partly to blame!

[Freedomlover]

Sorry, I was referring to the link "Shay" provided, which is quite simply off-color in mixed company, particularly when one takes into account there are minors involved in this discussion board. I should have been more clear.

Just curious, and not looking to wander off down another trail, but I don't see anything "off color" in the link. It is simply an etemological presentation. What, specifically, in the link do you object to?

[Kilts_Knave]

Just curious, and not looking to wander off down another trail, but I don't see anything "off color" in the link. It is simply an etemological presentation. What, specifically, in the link do you object to?

Why the ****** word? I was expecting to see a definition of the word "skirt;"
I don;t need to see the etymology of the word faggott. ****** has nothing to do with this thread.

Anyway, this has happened in antoher thread, and quite frankly, I am sick and tired of people bringing up etymologies of archaic words that are both harrassing and harmful to me and others.

I will not be coming back to this board.

[Freedomlover]

Why the ****** word? I was expecting to see a definition of the word "skirt;"
I don;t need to see the etymology of the word faggott. ****** has nothing to do with this thread.

Anyway, this has happened in antoher thread, and quite frankly, I am sick and tired of people bringing up etymologies of archaic words that are both harrassing and harmful to me and others.

I will not be coming back to this board.

Good grief! I suppose there is no accounting for individual reactions, but to leave the community over an imagined slight seems a little over reactive.

Shay's link was interesting, informative, and matter of fact. To be offended at a matter of fact is not reasonable. Further, I do not see any possible way that the posting of such a link can be construed to be "harassing and harmful". But sometimes people flee where no one is persuing.

[Iolaus]

Why the ****** word? I was expecting to see a definition of the word "skirt;"
I don;t need to see the etymology of the word faggott. ****** has nothing to do with this thread.

Anyway, this has happened in antoher thread, and quite frankly, I am sick and tired of people bringing up etymologies of archaic words that are both harrassing and harmful to me and others.

I will not be coming back to this board.

She was merely providing an "aside" in response to the post immediately above hers, which had been posted the night before, in order to clarify the subject for those unfamiliar with the multiple uses of the word. Heck, she even said, "and why it is hurtful."

If you're going to get pissy, at least get pissed at the right person.

[Archangel]

Alright, for those interested in the etymology of the word and why it is hurtful, there is a progression shown here. However, I ask that you keep in mind our community is not all straight, and even knowing that certain words mean something else in a different context... doesn't make them totally free of any taint.

Frankly, I'm surprised the language filter doesn't pick that up.

FWIW, I don't think Shay has to be feeling bad about Kilt_nave's reaction. Something else is going on that we may never know. How sad. He clearly has some pain here and this forum has usually been suprisingly open and sensitive. It would be better for him to stay.

Shay, the thread had clearly detoured to this subject. In context, and order, it is reasonably clear that it was now referring to the definition of this word, and not skirt. Kilt_nave was part of that discussion. You gave appropriate warning and expressed appropriate sensitivity.

[Freelander Sporrano]

Ok Lads!

don't let this get all bent out of shape. If you can't all get back on track

then Please find something else to talk about.

I asked nicely

[KiltedCodeWarrior]

Ok Lads!

don't let this get all bent out of shape. If you can't all get back on track

then Please find something else to talk about.

I asked nicely

David, I think it is a non-issue, if kilt_nave has decided to leave the forum, and a non-issue even if he does not. I will admit that I did not prevoiously follow Shay's link, expecting to see a historical reference to the word ****** and its etymology. I just followed it and read what I would have expected, although I have been following this thread since the beginning. I don't know how that factual description of the history of the word and its connotations or denotations could be offensive to anyone of any age.

So back on (a!) topic, I had a good experience while shopping in the mall with my family yesterday. A lady clerk in a store saw me in my kilt and walked straight over and said "Your wearing a kilt, that's great!", we chatted a bit and she asked if I had worn one to our wedding (which most know is impossible since I have been married for >17 years and only kilted for like 17 days!). Anyway, as we were finishing the conversation, she said "I think its great to see a man wearing a skirt". Said in a nice tone with no sly undertones or anything and did not bother me a bit.